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:..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:19 am
by hANNAbONE
Glovebox plug on my 2014"A" isn't working. [GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr..!!]
I've checked and changed the fuse 3A
Still no go.
The group have any ideas??
TIA
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:54 am
by FJRoss
You got the right fuse, I assume?
Note: Only powered with ignition on.
Other than that, I can't help.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:02 pm
by hANNAbONE
yeah - tried all that, bike on etc.
Thx for the reply
I do have a YES thru late September, prolly hafta take it in.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:06 pm
by Toter
Have you tested with a volt meter, or just like a USB plug-in device? I had a USB plug-in that was bad, socket was actually working.
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Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:55 pm
by ionbeam
Even though the schematic isn't clear about it, there is a coupler for the Aux Power plug behind the fairing. There are three couplers in the same spot, the Left Turn Signal, the Aux Power Coupler and the Accessory Box Solenoid coupler. These couplers are shown in section 2 of the FSM Cable Routing. Item 14 below:
Img coming soon. Dunno why normally good Smugmug is slow today.
The power for coupler 14 comes directly from the Aux Power fuse.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by extrememarine
Edit - what Alan (ionbeam) said...
Next steps would be to pull the side panel and check to ensure that the plug on the back side of the outlet didn't come off or loose. From there, trace the wire back through the harness, checking connectors, etc.
Any other work done on the bike lately?
Tech day in the spring here in Michigan (most likely)- bring it, we'll keep Barry away from it and sort it out...
Wayne
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:53 pm
by raYzerman
That wire will handle 5A, so you can put a 5A fuse in it if you want... use voltmeter.... check any USB or device you have plugged into it. Should be no need to go fishing for connectors.....
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:38 pm
by escapefjrtist
Confirm the socket is hooked up and a PO hasn’t repurposed it...
~G
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:41 pm
by hANNAbONE
nfa1eab wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:06 pm
Have you tested with a volt meter, or just like a USB plug-in device? I had a USB plug-in that was bad, socket was actually working.
Sent from my SM-T813 using Tapatalk
I've tried three different adapters plugged in, with the ignition switch "on"
haven't tried the volt meter, that's a good idea.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:43 pm
by hANNAbONE
ionbeam wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:55 pm
Even though the schematic isn't clear about it, there is a coupler for the Aux Power plug behind the fairing. There are three couplers in the same spot, the Left Turn Signal, the Aux Power Coupler and the Accessory Box Solenoid coupler. These couplers are shown in section 2 of the FSM Cable Routing. Item 14 below:
Img coming soon. Dunno why normally good Smugmug is slow today.
The power for coupler 14 comes directly from the Aux Power fuse.
Yes, good to know and thanks for that schematic.
I'll get under the front end and see if things are still buttoned up tight.
Great idea - many thanks.!
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:44 pm
by hANNAbONE
extrememarine wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:58 pm
Edit - what Alan (ionbeam) said...
Next steps would be to pull the side panel and check to ensure that the plug on the back side of the outlet didn't come off or loose. From there, trace the wire back through the harness, checking connectors, etc.
Any other work done on the bike lately?
Tech day in the spring here in Michigan (most likely)- bring it, we'll keep Barry away from it and sort it out...
Wayne
PO didn't mention anything about anything repurposed, albeit that could be the culprit.
I'll chase that down too.
I might just wait for the TechDay to figure it out too...great idea.!
Thanks for the reply
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:45 pm
by hANNAbONE
escapefjrtist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:38 pm
Confirm the socket is hooked up and a PO hasn’t repurposed it...
~G
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I'll climb under there and see what gives...Thanks for the reply
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm
by hANNAbONE
raYzerman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:53 pm
That wire will handle 5A, so you can put a 5A fuse in it if you want... use voltmeter.... check any USB or device you have plugged into it. Should be no need to go fishing for connectors.....
really -- 5A -- welp, with that I might get back into the fuse dept and spice up that connection.
Thanks for your reply.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:04 am
by Uncle Hud
Recently swapped mine out for two-port USB. Not an easy task, but ionbeam is correct: there is a diconnect coupling up high behind the pairing, and mine was thickly covered in road grime. A cleaning might be in order, after you check it for 12vdc with the ignition switch on.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:31 am
by Bounce
hANNAbONE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm
raYzerman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:53 pm
That wire will handle 5A, so you can put a 5A fuse in it if you want... use voltmeter.... check any USB or device you have plugged into it. Should be no need to go fishing for connectors.....
really -- 5A -- welp, with that I might get back into the fuse dept and spice up that connection.
Thanks for your reply.
I would never try to "out think" the engineers that spec's the fuse for that circuit. DO NOT OVERLOAD IT by swapping in a higher amp fuse. Why not just stuff a penny in there instead? Because it's unwise.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:38 am
by Cav47
Bounce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:31 am
hANNAbONE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm
raYzerman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:53 pm
That wire will handle 5A, so you can put a 5A fuse in it if you want... use voltmeter.... check any USB or device you have plugged into it. Should be no need to go fishing for connectors.....
really -- 5A -- welp, with that I might get back into the fuse dept and spice up that connection.
Thanks for your reply.
Why not just stuff a penny in there instead?
Duh, Pennies don't fit. Dimes are much closer. That is what I use.
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:45 am
by wheatonFJR
Cav47 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:38 am
Bounce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:31 am
hANNAbONE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm
really -- 5A -- welp, with that I might get back into the fuse dept and spice up that connection.
Thanks for your reply.
Why not just stuff a penny in there instead?
Duh, Pennies don't fit. Dimes are much closer. That is what I use.
This forum is awesome. THANKS!
Re: :..Aux Plug not working..:
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:00 pm
by raYzerman
Bounce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:31 am
hANNAbONE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm
raYzerman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:53 pm
That wire will handle 5A, so you can put a 5A fuse in it if you want... use voltmeter.... check any USB or device you have plugged into it. Should be no need to go fishing for connectors.....
really -- 5A -- welp, with that I might get back into the fuse dept and spice up that connection.
Thanks for your reply.
I would never try to "out think" the engineers that spec's the fuse for that circuit. DO NOT OVERLOAD IT by swapping in a higher amp fuse. Why not just stuff a penny in there instead? Because it's unwise.
Suggested reading.... wire gauges and amperages. It ain't a penny.