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Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:18 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
My side bag delaminated! Anyone know what to use to re-adhere? Was thinking RTV or Plastic Epoxy! Any suggestions!

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:47 pm
by ionbeam
Gort - Deglet ovrosco! At least until reading some replies.

Ya, a very small number of bags do delaminate; we suspect they are Monday or Friday bags ;) Just about any adhesive will do as long as it doesn't contain a solvent which would attack plastic. I think some people have even used shoe-goo. IMO, something resilient like RTV is good. If you want to really get gonzo, you can go to an automotive parts store and pickup a small tube of 3M Plastic Emblem and Trim Adhesive. I know that epoxy like J-B Weld would hold but it is hard and inflexible which *might* cause a problem with motorcycle vibrations and flexing.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:54 pm
by Bust
Urethane is also an option, they glue box sides on some of the pickups with it. Only advice i'll offer is heat it up to 125 130 to soften it and help it flow.
That shit is like tar when it's room temperature.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:13 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
Jesus Christ, don’t they make anything to last anymore, I mean it’s only 15 yrs. old! Lol

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:20 pm
by ionbeam
RTSR1/FJR wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:13 pm Jesus Christ, don’t they make anything to last anymore, I mean it’s only 15 yrs. old! Lol
I'm sure not what I was 15 year ago. :lol:

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:42 pm
by wheatonFJR
ionbeam wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:20 pm
RTSR1/FJR wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:13 pm Jesus Christ, don’t they make anything to last anymore, I mean it’s only 15 yrs. old! Lol
I'm sure not what I was 15 year ago. :lol:
Yeah, but you haven't delaminated yet!

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:34 pm
by FJRoss
ionbeam wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:47 pm Gort - Deglet ovrosco! At least until reading some replies.

Ya, a very small number of bags do delaminate; we suspect they are Monday or Friday bags ;) Just about any adhesive will do as long as it doesn't contain a solvent which would attack plastic. I think some people have even used shoe-goo. IMO, something resilient like RTV is good. If you want to really get gonzo, you can go to an automotive parts store and pickup a small tube of 3M Plastic Emblem and Trim Adhesive. I know that epoxy like J-B Weld would hold but it is hard and inflexible which *might* cause a problem with motorcycle vibrations and flexing.
I would not suggest Shoe-Goo. It has some pretty aggressive solvents that might not do good things for either the ABS plastic or the paint.
RTV silicone might be the safest. The black stuff that is used to seal windshields or the stuff for sticking automotive weatherstripping might be good choices as well but I would verify that solvent isn't going to be an issue before I used them. I would use a mild solvent such as isopropyl alcohol to clean/degrease the surfaces before attaching again. Polyurethane adhesive (i.e. Gorilla Glue) sticks well but may foam enough to push the shell out - even if you apply modest pressure to hold it in place while it cures. I would avoid epoxy since it can get brittle over time and with some flex it could let go again.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:15 pm
by garauld
I'd use RTV which is what works well for keeping the rubber lid strips on.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:38 pm
by NTXFJR
I used this on my '04. Never had any more issues with them.

https://images.homedepot-static.com/pro ... 4_1000.jpg

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Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm
by LKLD
Time for a new bike.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:32 pm
by bungie4
3M yellow gorilla snot. You'll be able to pickup the entire bike by the side bag cover after.

Re: RE: Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:44 pm
by silverback
bungie4 wrote:3M yellow gorilla snot. You'll be able to pickup the entire bike by the side bag cover after.
The proper term is "snake snot". Because it is. But, I agree with the holding power.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:10 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
Decided to go with this! I’ll see how it works! Thanks for all the responses!

https://www.gorillatough.com/product/go ... -adhesive/

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:14 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
LKLD wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm Time for a new bike.
Never! I’ve had it 14 yrs.! I’ll ride it till either I or it dies! Lol

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:15 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
wheatonFJR wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:42 pm
ionbeam wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:20 pm
RTSR1/FJR wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:13 pm Jesus Christ, don’t they make anything to last anymore, I mean it’s only 15 yrs. old! Lol
I'm sure not what I was 15 year ago. :lol:
Yeah, but you haven't delaminated yet!
I delaminated a long time ago! Lol

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:01 pm
by LKLD
RTSR1/FJR wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:14 pm
LKLD wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm Time for a new bike.
Never! I’ve had it 14 yrs.! I’ll ride it till either I or it dies! Lol
Well, in that case, I hope it's the bike.

Which, again, my advise is still relevant. :D

Seriously, best of luck with the side case.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:18 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
LKLD wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:01 pm
RTSR1/FJR wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:14 pm
LKLD wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm Time for a new bike.
Never! I’ve had it 14 yrs.! I’ll ride it till either I or it dies! Lol
Well, in that case, I hope it's the bike.

Which, again, my advise is still relevant. :D

Seriously, best of luck with the side case.
Thanks!

Re: RE: Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:50 pm
by bungie4
silverback wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:44 pm
bungie4 wrote:3M yellow gorilla snot. You'll be able to pickup the entire bike by the side bag cover after.
The proper term is "snake snot". Because it is. But, I agree with the holding power.
Truth. That shit is bonkers.

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:20 pm
by RTSR1/FJR
Went with the Gorilla adhesive! It’s worked great! You can see proper squeeze out at the 4 locking tabs! Stays flexible like the original adhesive! No foaming and quick surface grab!
I’ve pulled and pulled! It’s on there! I put a strap around the bag after application to hold everything in place! Let it cure 24 hrs.! We’re good to go!

Re: Side bag delamination

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:26 pm
by wheatonFJR
All! Right!

Good! to! Hear!