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Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:40 am
by palerider
Hi,

A follow-up observation on my nearly dead 2006AE, which, thanks to AAA, is at Advanced Moto Tech, an independent shop in Glendale (CA): There's no power going anywhere but the gauges. Turn the ignition key to on, and the gauge lights go on, the tachometer and speedometer needles swing over and back, and the yellow warning light comes on solid, and the warning flashers work. Other than that there's no power to any systems: no starting, no brake lights, and no head lights. I can't find anything in the manual that touches on this. It's wishful thinking, but I can't help hoping I'm overlooking something really simple, obvious, and stupid, like the kill switch, which I've tried.

Without my FJR I feel like I've lost a limb.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:49 am
by SLK50
Have you had the ignition switch replaced under recall?

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:59 am
by palerider
Yes, the ignition switch has been replaced, but that doesn't mean it hasn't gone bad.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:11 am
by wheatonFJR
Harness? Spiders?

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:23 am
by raYzerman
Go to FJR Forum and do a search for ground spider. Here is Brodie's harness thread which thankfully still has photos you can view..
http://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.ph ... g-harness/

There is a diagram showing the wiring for the spiders on FJR Owners , found it!
Note prevalent problems were on '06-'07, but could affect all Gen2's
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Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am
by gixxerjasen
Fuse perhaps?

You did ask for simple, obvious, and stupid. :D

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:02 am
by palerider
gixxerjasen wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am Fuse perhaps?

You did ask for simple, obvious, and stupid. :D
I've yet to find the bottom of my stupid (and that's after 70 years!), so yes, stupid's fine. In fact it's perversely reassuring. But I did check the fuses, and they seem OK.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:04 am
by palerider
raYzerman wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:23 am Go to FJR Forum and do a search for ground spider. Here is Brodie's harness thread which thankfully still has photos you can view..
http://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.ph ... g-harness/

There is a diagram showing the wiring for the spiders on FJR Owners , found it!
Note prevalent problems were on '06-'07, but could affect all Gen2's
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I've been banned from FJR Forum (felony joking), but I had the harness replaced under recall. That doesn't mean that isn't the problem.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:19 am
by gixxerjasen
palerider wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:02 am
gixxerjasen wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am Fuse perhaps?

You did ask for simple, obvious, and stupid. :D
I've yet to find the bottom of my stupid (and that's after 70 years!), so yes, stupid's fine. In fact it's perversely reassuring. But I did check the fuses, and they seem OK.
Yea, well, I'm happy you brought up the kill switch. I won't mention the number of times I've torn down a bike due to that stupid thing. :roll:

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:28 am
by palerider
gixxerjasen wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:19 am
palerider wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:02 am
gixxerjasen wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am Fuse perhaps?

You did ask for simple, obvious, and stupid. :D
I've yet to find the bottom of my stupid (and that's after 70 years!), so yes, stupid's fine. In fact it's perversely reassuring. But I did check the fuses, and they seem OK.
Yea, well, I'm happy you brought up the kill switch. I won't mention the number of times I've torn down a bike due to that stupid thing. :roll:
Thanks. One time I tore the blocked drain in a bath tub apart before I realized that the drain latch was closed. Stupidity loves company.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:57 am
by HotRodZilla
A couple people have had further "spider" issues with the S6 connector. That one was not affected by the repair harness. May need to lift the tank and check all those ground harnesses. My bet is one is bad.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:09 pm
by palerider
Thx!

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 pm
by Powerman
Check S-4, the factory recall still has too much current through it.
The drawing shows you the systems it feeds. Ground jumper each pin
and check a device it feeds. Divide and conquer.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:22 pm
by palerider
Thx!

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:28 pm
by palerider
Powerman wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 pm Check S-4, the factory recall still has too much current through it.
The drawing shows you the systems it feeds. Ground jumper each pin
and check a device it feeds. Divide and conquer.
Blown 15amp fuse. I missed it. Ryan Reza found it. Seems to be a short in the directional-signal circuit.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:03 am
by gixxerjasen
palerider wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:28 pm Blown 15amp fuse. I missed it.
*CoughCough*
gixxerjasen wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am Fuse perhaps?

You did ask for simple, obvious, and stupid. :D


:mrgreen:

Glad it was something simple...and relatively inexpensive.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:10 am
by palerider
Yes. Phew! Now I have to find the short.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:50 am
by HotRodZilla
palerider wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:10 am Yes. Phew! Now I have to find the short.
That's the part that's gonna suck!!

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:38 am
by raYzerman
First place I'd look is up at the turn signals themselves..... those connectors are not waterproof and betcha ya got some green stuff growing up there, maybe shorting across...... dunno why they didn't make these waterproof.

Re: Dead from the waist down

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:03 pm
by Powerman
You been looking down my pants ?