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Pinlock fogging

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:47 pm
by silverback
So, I hear a lot about people who love their pinlock visors. Well, mine fogs up. Not as fast as the part outside the pinlock, but still too fast to be usable.

Any suggestions on how to remedy that?

Re: RE: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:54 pm
by RacinRay
silverback wrote:So, I hear a lot about people who love their pinlock visors. Well, mine fogs up. Not as fast as the part outside the pinlock, but still too fast to be usable.

Any suggestions on how to remedy that?
Try this link. http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2017/01/pi ... gSjrHpOnqA

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Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:02 pm
by 0face
What about building something like this? LINK

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:59 pm
by LKLD
You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.

Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am
by silverback
0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!

Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:32 am
by silverback
LKLD wrote:You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.
I have heard about that...my dad lives in Alaska... the natives have strange customs!

Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:09 am
by wheatonFJR
:mrgreen:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:32 am
LKLD wrote:You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.
I have heard about that...my dad lives in Alaska... the natives have strange customs!
Don't say that to Odot.

Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:41 am
by 0face
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am
0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:44 pm
by silverback
0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am
0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:49 pm
by raYzerman
You know there are snowmobile helmets with heated visors already built in........ this is one brand, I'm sure there are more....
https://www.fxrracing.com/fuel-modular- ... ld-17.html

Re: RE: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:23 pm
by Uncle Hud
RacinRay wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:54 pm Try this link. http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2017/01/pi ... gSjrHpOnqA
Thank you.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:44 pm
by 0face
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:44 pm
0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....
It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:52 pm
by silverback
0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:44 pm
0face wrote: You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....
It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
Yeah. True. The Schuberth is like a fan blowing in your face. My old Scorpion was more like a slight draft.

Heat isn't too big an issue, could just use an old glow plug off a Chevy 6.2L diesel.

The 'stache problem...well, some asbestos enriched 'stache wax would cure that.Image

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:33 pm
by wheatonFJR
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0face wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:44 pm It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
No worries. I shaved that off after my film career ended in the late 70s.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:32 pm
by 0face
wheatonFJR wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:33 pm ...
0face wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:44 pm It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
No worries. I shaved that off after my film career ended in the late 70s.
The advent of the video cassette killed adult theaters... tragic for PeeWee Herman & Bust.

too bad you never got to film "Ridin' da Stach 5 - Reverse Cowgirl"

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:28 pm
by Bugnatr
"Wheatie does the cornholeo." 1976 I believe, epic- if you are into that kind of thing. :shock:

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:06 pm
by PhilJet09
Ok, back on topic. If your pinloc is fogging, it isn't sealed properly to the visor, or you cleaned it wrong. This could be due to a crappy seal on the Pinloc insert (I've seen this on some of mine), poor installation (too much/little/uneven pressure pushing the insert into the visor), or improper care of the insert. The fit of the insert to the visor is very delicate and IMO is where most problems lie. Even a small gap between the silicone seal and the visor will create fog between the two. With the visor and insert both being made of flexible materials, it amazes me that any of them work. The problem I have is that I like to ride with my visor up often and the constant air pressure moves the pinloc slightly out of position. Then the next time I need it to work correctly, it doesn't. Sometimes, they just aren't mounted well and any amount of adjustment isn't enough. The big "user mistake" is the cleaning. If you use plexus or something equivalent on the insert, you might as well throw them away and start over. The inserts are designed to adsorb a certain amount of moisture to prevent fogging. Those products clog the coating on the insert and prevent that from happening.

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:53 pm
by El Toro Joe
I try to raise the visor as little as possible, and raise the entire chin bar most of the time. I usually can get maybe two seasons out of a pin lock insert, before they start fitting poorly.

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:01 am
by bill lumberg
As Phil said, if it’s fogging, it’s not installed properly or worn out. They can drift down on some helmets over time, and/or get grit in the bead, which etches the visor over time.

Re: Pinlock fogging

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:47 pm
by silverback
Found the slightest gap in it.

Today SAP was supposed to be down at work for a while. IT was supposed to be working on it. Jerks actually finished early, so I have to work tags instead of fixing my pinlock.

The hours are long here and they don't pay well, but I am am engineer, so at least they don't listen to me!