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bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:24 am
by twowheelr
On the way to the store tonight , my 05 fjr just cut off. All dash lights, headlights and horn etc.. dead.
Managed to put it in my truck and get it home. After much fighting, I got the glove box open (a pain with no power)
I checked all the fuses in the left fuse box, the main 50 amp by the battery , and the 15 amp on the solenoid.
Battery checks at 12.9 v and grounds ohm out at 0.1 .
I checked the positive to the starter solenoid and it reads the same as the battery.I am quitting for the night , but I'm off tomorrow and will
continue then.
I have the Yamaha manual and will go back through the wiring schematics in more dept tomorrow. My question is are there any hidden or less obvious
fuses I am overlooking?
As luck would have it, I just filled the tank today, so I will have to siphon it out to remove the tank tomorrow as well.
Sorry for the long post, but I know the more info, the easier to trace the problem .
TIA, Mark.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:51 am
by Intech
Have you checked to see that you are getting power through the ignition switch? With no power anywhere that would be my first suspect. Have you done any recent wiring or maintenance that involved disconnecting and reconnecting anything?

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:21 am
by huron52
To and to what Bob said.... Check every connect that you touch if you just added a farkle It's happened to me that something in the same area unrelated sort of gets unpluged or connector pulled enough to not make good contact. And recheck those battery posts

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:48 am
by beemerdons
twowheelr, I would bet money that Bob and Tom are exactly right that you are dealing with a connectivity issue in your FJR's electrical system. Ignition switch and battery posts are the principal suspects and the easiest first items to start checking out!

When Wheatie and Karl came out to Kali and I rode over to Fairyland to meet them, up in Bodega Bay my 2003 Gen 1 was giving me fits and it turned out to be both the switch and posts!

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:25 pm
by 0face
+1 on what they said. Always check the connections first.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:00 pm
by twowheelr
Well, good news, bad news.
It wasn't a fuse it is the ignition switch, as soon as I drill out the safety screws, I will try to inspect the contacts.
Are they sold separately?
Thanks for the replies:-)

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:06 pm
by 0face
Wasn't there an ignition switch recall? It might just be Gen II.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:35 pm
by Geezer
Ignition switch recall was Gen II only.

If you need to use the bike while waiting for a new switch you can wire in a toggle switch temporarily.

Also, you may be able to clear the problem by spraying some contact cleaner into the switch and working the key back and forth to clean the contacts.

If the contacts do turn out to be burnt rather than just dirty, I would like to know what kind of farkles you have that may be drawing additional current through the switch.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:55 pm
by extrememarine
Bikebandit has it hereas item 33.

shameless promotion - I have a gen 2 ignition switch and key from my '09.
twowheelr wrote:Well, good news, bad news.
It wasn't a fuse it is the ignition switch, as soon as I drill out the safety screws, I will try to inspect the contacts.
Are they sold separately?
Thanks for the replies:-)

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:28 pm
by 0face
Geez, $143 for the switch? I'd make an offer on the shameless promotion, you can have it re-keyed.
extrememarine wrote:Bikebandit has it hereas item 33.

shameless promotion - I have a gen 2 ignition switch and key from my '09.
twowheelr wrote:Well, good news, bad news.
It wasn't a fuse it is the ignition switch, as soon as I drill out the safety screws, I will try to inspect the contacts.
Are they sold separately?
Thanks for the replies:-)

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:38 pm
by twowheelr
Hi Wayne,
Shoot me an email to twowheelr@gmail.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would like to know if the contacts might be able to be swapped so I can keep my key set.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:21 pm
by twowheelr
It turned to be a bad solder joint on the red wire inside the ignition. I resoldered the connection and checked the others.
I didn't have any direct loads added to the main harness. I added a 30 amp relay and terminal strip for my GPS, heated gloves, and radar detector, plus the temp gage and voltmeter , so no large loads on the ignition. I'll ad a pic later.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:27 pm
by beemerdons
twowheelr wrote:It turned to be a bad solder joint on the red wire inside the ignition. I resoldered the connection and checked the others.
I didn't have any direct loads added to the main harness. I added a 30 amp relay and terminal strip for my GPS, heated gloves, and radar detector, plus the temp gage and voltmeter , so no large loads on the ignition. I'll ad a pic later.
That's great news twowheelr, we just love "Happy Endings" here at FJRiders.com; unless of course it involves Bustanut joker, with those "Happy Endings" we can usually count on HotRodZilla being there too! jes' sayin' and nuff' said!

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:12 pm
by twowheelr
So it won't be all bad,I'm doing plugs,sync and ripping out the air plumbing while it's down.
I'm at 25,000, so its due. I think the valves can wait another month or 2.
I have new tires here already and the rear is not quite to the wear bars. I think I'll do the valves then.

Re: bike died sitting at a light

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:55 pm
by Chuck35
I'd check ebay. I got the recall new design for my 08 for under 50 bucks