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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:56 pm
by Cav47
The outer friction plate
Front. Lots of grit and ridges are not as deep as the others
Backside of friction plate A. No ridges at all.
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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:59 pm
by Cav47
Outermost steel plate B.
Side next to the friction plate that has no ridges.
Other side Notice the difference in the surfaces?
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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
by Cav47
Second friction plate in. Front outer side.
Close up of outer front side
Back side of plate C.
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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:20 pm
by Cav47
It’s pretty obvious the outermost friction plate is FUBAR. And the metal plate next looks like burnt toast.
The other plates look okay.
There was plenty of grit and discoloration on the outermost plate.
I am not stressing about getting the innermost steel plate out that is behind the retention wire right now.
There is one more friction plate behind there so I might give it a shot if needed.
Why would I have to take out the clutch Boss and the associated rod? All the plates, both friction and steel slide out without removing them. I don’t want to borrow trouble.
It looks like I am going to have to order a set of plates to be safe. Is that what you all would do?
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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:57 pm
by Cav47
I give the wire removal a shot and it came out okay. Glad I did. Here are the last two plates. They don’t look good.
Crispy looking. I am assuming there is supposed to be ridges on this backside too.
Lots of grit.
Some ridges present.
Back side looks okay.
The side that was up against the friction plate that now has no ridges.
I am going to need some help getting a line on the friction plates.
I think if I get them, I can reassemble and ride.
What are my best options to get these parts here ASAP. THANKS
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Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:42 am
by NTXFJR
If partzilla has them on the shelf which they should maybe get them to 2nd day air them?
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:46 am
by Cav47
NTXFJR wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:42 am
If partzilla has them on the shelf which they should maybe get them to 2nd day air them?
Looking there now.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:52 am
by Abercrombie FJR
Well you definitely found your problem, now you just need your solution. No sweat!
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:59 am
by Cav47
Abercrombie FJR wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:52 am
Well you definitely found your problem, now you just need your solution. No sweat!
Looking at part warehouses that have them in and will ship quick.
Got my list ready to go in the morning.
Worst comes to worst and I will clean these all up real good and reassemble to see if that works. After changing oil to some motorcycle specific Belray with all the correct specs, I gotta be good.......right?
If anyone knows a way to get clutch friction plates quick, please chime in
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:38 am
by bill lumberg
Fingers crossed. Where are you again? I know Partspak is in my general area.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:05 am
by griff
Cav47 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:59 am
If anyone knows a way to get clutch friction plates quick, please chime in
Cav - you might try Partshark over in Indy. They might have them on the shelf.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:55 am
by FJRoss
Man, those are ugly! Before you replace the steels, try scrubbing them with mineral spirits and Scotchbrite medium abrasive pads. Check thickness.
Then you have to figure out why this happened. Continual clutch clip because of issues with lever?
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:58 am
by Festus
Cav47 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:20 pm
Why would I have to take out the clutch Boss and the associated rod? All the plates, both friction and steel slide out without removing them. I don’t want to borrow trouble.
You don't, I only explained the rod going across to help you understand that the piece in the middle is a plunger with a single ball bearing behind it that can fall out at disassembly.
Good job on getting it all apart. Putting it back together is easy!
I suspect that thing will ride like a new bike when you get it back together. I can't believe how smoked it is.
Whoever you order them from, make sure you do it with a phone call to verify it's actually in stock. The big online places will let you pick 2nd day air, show in stock, and then not ship it for weeks or send you an email update days later saying the date is moving.
Yamaha dealers have access to all other dealers, so if you have one of those around, and they don't have it, they can see who else does and actually get it to you. Order it from whoever has it, just noting that you might want to verbally double check with whoever you get it from to make sure that it's actually in stock and will actually ship that day.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:39 am
by gixxerjasen
Ho Lee Sheet! I bet that lever has been dragging for a while. Even mine weren't that bad and for them to be that bad so early.... You been drag racing on Friday nights when there's no football?? Wow!
I'm happy to see we can continue referring to it as "The Jesus hole." Now get those parts ordered ASAP!
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:00 am
by Cav47
Parts Shark says they do not have any.
Waiting for someone to return my call from PartZilla.
And waiting for RMATV to open in a minute.
All of the places do not seem to have them in stock. It ain’t looking good.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:04 am
by ionbeam
Click the pic below and try Ron Ayres, I've had good luck and good pricing from him. It may be time to see if a dealer can find the parts.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:06 am
by Festus
Partzilla shows them in stock, yes?
Partzilla is the one famous for saying it's in stock and then you getting follow up emails days later. Next day air works great, but not when you wait 14 days to ship it, but it "appears" to be in stock at Partzilla, but I might be picking the wrong year/model. I just picked the 2015 standard model.
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:09 am
by Madmudder
Since you have it down to this point you may want to install a slipper clutch from a 2016 or newer bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OTj00a2dYI
https://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/?gcli ... 1EQAvD_BwE
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:11 am
by Cav47
RMATV said shipping was running 10-12 business days right now.
Any other advice?
I need these parts. One each of the first two listed and 7 of the last one on the list.
PLATE, FRICTION 2
Part #131204001342
Mfg. #4XV-16331-00-00
PLATE, FRICTION
Part #131204000697
Mfg. #341-16321-13-00
PLATE, FRICTION
Part #131204023383
Mfg. #5JW-16321-10-00
Re: My Clutch is Slipping
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:14 am
by gixxerjasen
Not looking good on RMMC, they show the back one and steel plates in stock, but the friction ones shipping in 7-10 days. - Edit - I see you already talked to them. Time to call the Yamaha shops and see what they have.
Maybe just put it back together and go trade it in on a new one.