Yamaha FJR1300 and Riding Enthusiasts
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You'd think they'd have them. My 81 model XS11 has them.palerider wrote:I'm waiting for self-cancelling turn signals.
I'm still a bigger fan of the clutch but what you are saying make perfect sense. Be interesting to know why they don't do that anymore.palerider wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:22 am If the auto-clutch model was available in NA, I would actually spend money to replace my 2006AE. I understand that they couldn't sell enough of them in the US/Canadian market to justify putting them in showrooms, but the solution to that seems obvious: reinstate the pre-order program (was it PDP?) they used for the FJR introduction 15 years ago. Then those of us who want/need the auto-clutch can get them without dealers having to stock them.
I would like to be able to use the clutch, but the left-thumb-joint arthritis is a major pleasure-killer. I do have to say, though, that if you live in a heavy-traffic area, the auto-clutch is a wonderful thing all on its own.deang wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:09 pmI'm still a bigger fan of the clutch but what you are saying make perfect sense. Be interesting to know why they don't do that anymore.palerider wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:22 am If the auto-clutch model was available in NA, I would actually spend money to replace my 2006AE. I understand that they couldn't sell enough of them in the US/Canadian market to justify putting them in showrooms, but the solution to that seems obvious: reinstate the pre-order program (was it PDP?) they used for the FJR introduction 15 years ago. Then those of us who want/need the auto-clutch can get them without dealers having to stock them.
Because for the 2006 FJR they adjusted the throttle cam profile and fueling to give it a bit more hit when getting on the throttle because of complaints of the previous generation being too soft. Easy to modulate when you are working the clutch but the on/off/on throttle on the AE is a bit abrupt without manual clutch control. Easily fixed with a replacement throttle tube with a softer cam and a power commander with a smoothed out map. However, those things don't come on magazine test bikes and the AE got put in the dog house by the American magazine reviews. Dealers trying to get folks to buy the bike with the $1700 upgrade were nearly having to take that much off the base model price to get them out the door. Adjustments were made to later bikes and it became a real gem off the showroom floor but the damage was already done to the reputation and they didn't sell, so Yamaha stopped sending them here.
No argument here; I would love that too. However, and I haven't researched this extensively (I assume no one here will be shy about correcting me), my superficial impression is that a DCT significantly saps power. If true, Yamaha would want to increase engine displacement (maybe a 1400?) if they were to add a DCT. The last thing they would want is for the moto-mags to scream about lack of power. (What is the sound of one death-knell clapping?)gixxerjasen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:11 pmBecause for the 2006 FJR they adjusted the throttle cam profile and fueling to give it a bit more hit when getting on the throttle because of complaints of the previous generation being too soft. Easy to modulate when you are working the clutch but the on/off/on throttle on the AE is a bit abrupt without manual clutch control. Easily fixed with a replacement throttle tube with a softer cam and a power commander with a smoothed out map. However, those things don't come on magazine test bikes and the AE got put in the dog house by the American magazine reviews. Dealers trying to get folks to buy the bike with the $1700 upgrade were nearly having to take that much off the base model price to get them out the door. Adjustments were made to later bikes and it became a real gem off the showroom floor but the damage was already done to the reputation and they didn't sell, so Yamaha stopped sending them here.
Yamaha should take the current model and slide in a DCT and call it done. There's a lot of us who own the older AE's that would love to have something new but like the auto clutch. I wasn't sure when I bought mine about giving up the clutch but I tell you I don't miss it at all. And in traffic, I'm so much happier with the auto clutch.
DCT is indeed so convenient! I have a NC750X DCT and I wish Yamaha could propose a DCT model for the FJR. I would buy immediately.gixxerjasen wrote:Well I like the color. Doesn't matter what I like because I'm not yet in the market for a replacement. But when I am, I might be snagging a low mileage used one of these.
I wouldn't have expected much other than BNC from Yamaha so soon after the last revisions. In fact I was surprised the last revisions came as soon as they did. They fixed the unnecessary sixth gear thing everyone complained about for so long. Far as I'm concerned, the current version is just about darn perfect and makes me wish I WAS in the market for a new one, but I'm not.
I said just about perfect because it doesn't have DCT on it yet. When it does, it will be absolutely perfect and I might be willing to part ways with my beloved old 07AE. I might even be tempted to buy new.
I hope DCT will be proposée soon. I am waiting this comfort to buy a new FJRgixxerjasen wrote:Because for the 2006 FJR they adjusted the throttle cam profile and fueling to give it a bit more hit when getting on the throttle because of complaints of the previous generation being too soft. Easy to modulate when you are working the clutch but the on/off/on throttle on the AE is a bit abrupt without manual clutch control. Easily fixed with a replacement throttle tube with a softer cam and a power commander with a smoothed out map. However, those things don't come on magazine test bikes and the AE got put in the dog house by the American magazine reviews. Dealers trying to get folks to buy the bike with the $1700 upgrade were nearly having to take that much off the base model price to get them out the door. Adjustments were made to later bikes and it became a real gem off the showroom floor but the damage was already done to the reputation and they didn't sell, so Yamaha stopped sending them here.
Yamaha should take the current model and slide in a DCT and call it done. There's a lot of us who own the older AE's that would love to have something new but like the auto clutch. I wasn't sure when I bought mine about giving up the clutch but I tell you I don't miss it at all. And in traffic, I'm so much happier with the auto clutch.
That's good to hear.bill lumberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:52 pm It’s no automatic, but the difference between the lever on the 2014 and the 2018 is amazing. So much less effort to pull the clutch lever in, at first you think something has come loose. I can’t quite pull it with just my pinky, but I came close.