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I am going to leave my worn out shock on. Then I have an excuse for being so slow.

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:22 am I am going to leave my worn out shock on. Then I have an excuse for being so slow.

You could get a new OEM shock and not tell anybody, and still use the excuse.

You'd have more fun without all the "expectations".

My excuse for being slow is that I'm slow.

gixxerjasen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13 am My excuse for being slow is that I'm slow.

This thread is not about standardized IQ testing. JSNS.



My excuse for being a slow rider is that I don't get the practice that others get because I live in Illinois. But so does Marty, so that shoots that excuse down.

Cav47 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:18 am

gixxerjasen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13 am My excuse for being slow is that I'm slow.

This thread is not about standardized IQ testing. JSNS.



My excuse for being a slow rider is that I don't get the practice that others get because I live in Illinois. But so does Marty, so that shoots that excuse down.

Yeah, but he gets practice on the Dan Ryan.

wheatonFJR wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:05 am

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:22 am I am going to leave my worn out shock on. Then I have an excuse for being so slow.

You could get a new OEM shock and not tell anybody, and still use the excuse.

You'd have more fun without all the "expectations".

On serious note. Maybe the suspension just declines so slowly that you don't notice like someone said. I really don't notice much if any difference in cornering. The only thing I have noticed is the front end seems to dive a little more now under hard braking. Mine is a 2013A with about 55K on it. I think I will play around with the adjustments a bit. Honestly 90% of my riding is one up in flat S. FL. I would have a hard time spending a bunch of money on new suspension for this bike. I think I would just bite the bullet and get a new ES.

That's pretty much it. It's like the frog in boiling water story. You get used to it over time and start riding around the limitations. Then you get something new and you are surprised at the change it makes.

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:35 pm

wheatonFJR wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:05 am

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:22 am I am going to leave my worn out shock on. Then I have an excuse for being so slow.

You could get a new OEM shock and not tell anybody, and still use the excuse.

You'd have more fun without all the "expectations".

On serious note. Maybe the suspension just declines so slowly that you don't notice like someone said. I really don't notice much if any difference in cornering. The only thing I have noticed is the front end seems to dive a little more now under hard braking. Mine is a 2013A with about 55K on it. I think I will play around with the adjustments a bit. Honestly 90% of my riding is one up in flat S. FL. I would have a hard time spending a bunch of money on new suspension for this bike. I think I would just bite the bullet and get a new ES.

You can spend the 5 figures for a new bike if you wish...but spending $1000 (or so) for essentially a new bike to rail in the curves in the mountains is the best investment you can make.

The Gen1/2 fork springs were too soft, period. The Gen3A are a progressive spring with 0.85 rate (same as Gen2) and mostly 1.0 rate (same as ES), so it really is a blend of the two. Dial down the preload to 2 bars showing if you're 200 lbs. Still not as strong as pure 1.0 straight rate, but will keep the front end dive down, yet be a semi-soft ride. Play with it from there. Start with fork damping (both) at 8 clicks out and tweak from there.

As for the rear, Pants was thinking 1000 lbs. spring... on HARD the OEM is 976 if you want to compare what that might feel like. If it pogos, you need to dial in some damping. Basically saying Penske recommendations I posted in the Suspension Matrix are most I'd do personally. Should be calculated based on basic bike and rider, not loaded. With adjustable preload you can dial in some if loaded or carrying pillion. My RaceTech has an 850, and I have a tad of preload dialed in, if I carry pillion it gets 2-3 turns more (out of a total of 25 I believe).

I will agree that anyone with an aftermarket shock doesn't know what they are missing and will never go back......

I called Yamaha Customer Service. Was on hold less than 2 minutes and the lady that took my call understood my request precisely (What's the technical difference between the old OEM part number and the current one?). She put me on hold another two minutes and then returned to tell me that the supplier changed, but otherwise, there is absolutely no difference between the two. So that mystery is solved.

I've got my front set at 2.5 bars showing, and I'm using the Showa (Honda) 10Wt fork oil, which I believe is actually closer to 7.5 wt. Dampening is about 10-ish clicks out for both IIRC. I like the behavior and performance of the front fork and hope that it doesn't change much after I change the shock.

I wish I could connect with ANYBODY that bought a hagon shock for the FJR.

When you put a real shock on the back, front may need to be tweaked, but very little necessary I'd say.
As for Hagon, the only concern is a rebuild down the road. Perhaps call Cogent and see if they'll do Hagon. If shaft size is 5/8 like most everybody else, no reason standard seals shouldn't be available and they should be able to refresh it down the road.

I've decided to go with the Hagon shock. They're price is reasonable and they will give me what I want.

I need to call my credit card company and figure out how to buy something in pounds sterling. I'll pull the trigger on Monday (or perhaps Sunday night as they should be at work by then).

Stay tuned - more to come...

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:35 pm I think I would just bite the bullet and get a new ES.

If you do, Dan, Tina will NEVER let you or I hear the end of it!

Hppants wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:26 pm I've decided to go with the Hagon shock. They're price is reasonable and they will give me what I want.

I need to call my credit card company and figure out how to buy something in pounds sterling. I'll pull the trigger on Monday (or perhaps Sunday night as they should be at work by then).

Stay tuned - more to come...

Your card company should not charge you extra for an international charge, most of the card companies have done away with that... your exchange rate should be close to the spot market too...

LKLD wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:48 pm

danh600 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:35 pm I think I would just bite the bullet and get a new ES.

If you do, Dan, Tina will NEVER let you or I hear the end of it!

Haha. I do like that blue one!!!!!!!!!!!

To let others in on the inside joke. Rob, Marie and my wife and I went on a ride. Rob had new aftermarket pipes on his bike (the 2013.) Not long after I ordered a pair. Rob saw them on the next ride and asked when I got them. My wife Tina said "He got them as soon as he saw your."

Well - now I'm challenged. Hagon does not accept paypal. They do accept a credit card that I carry that has a minimal (1%) conversion fee, which I can certainly live with. However, they will not be able to do this via their website. So unless you can help me think of something, my choices are:

1. Send my c/c information via email (Uh.... I don't think so, Tim)

2. Call in my order. My cell phone belongs to my employer and I do not think they would appreciate the international call.

3. Go find a shock somewhere else.

What about doing a skype or hype or whatever the heck that call that stuff? Come 'on techies - show me whatcha got!

Hppants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:09 am Well - now I'm challenged. Hagon does not accept paypal. They do accept a credit card that I carry that has a minimal (1%) conversion fee, which I can certainly live with. However, they will not be able to do this via their website. So unless you can help me think of something, my choices are:

1. Send my c/c information via email (Uh.... I don't think so, Tim)

2. Call in my order. My cell phone belongs to my employer and I do not think they would appreciate the international call.

3. Go find a shock somewhere else.

What about doing a skype or hype or whatever the heck that call that stuff? Come 'on techies - show me whatcha got!

Do you have a home Phone?
Use the Wifey Phone
Email them and tell them to call you on the work phone (at a specific time), you won't get charged for an incoming call right?

Pants - suck it up Matey!

As I used to say when I worked in the Speed Shop in the 70's "Speed Costs Money! How fast do you want to go?"

Are you related to CAV47 "The Millenial Wonder Boy"?

Call from home!

Hppants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:09 am Well - now I'm challenged. Hagon does not accept paypal. They do accept a credit card that I carry that has a minimal (1%) conversion fee, which I can certainly live with. However, they will not be able to do this via their website. So unless you can help me think of something, my choices are:

1. Send my c/c information via email (Uh.... I don't think so, Tim)

2. Call in my order. My cell phone belongs to my employer and I do not think they would appreciate the international call.

3. Go find a shock somewhere else.

What about doing a skype or hype or whatever the heck that call that stuff? Come 'on techies - show me whatcha got!

Sometimes I get emails with sensitive documents. The attached documents are password protected. Password can be sent in a different email or by phone. Maybe something like that would work?

On a tangential note... I'm seeing more and more business that make it hard to buy their products. f@$k off with that shit. I want to spend my money at your place of business, don't make me jump through hoops to do it otherwise ...