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0face wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:37 pm It start so lively now! A few Viagra in the gas tank and all good!

Bust wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:45 am

0face wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:37 pm It start so lively now! A few Viagra in the gas tank and all good!

Wow..
Nice job gaying up your post.

Good to see ya get fxd.

raYzerman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:57 pm Save that original starter for forensic analysis........

ionbeam wrote:

raYzerman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:57 pm Save that original starter for forensic analysis........

The brushes wear creating a fine, mostly conductive dust. The copper commutator lobes gets lightly worn by the brushes creating a fine conductive copper dust. Oil starts to seep in. The oil, brush dust and copper dust combine into a very thick paste. The paste starts to collect in the kerfs between the commutator lobes. The mostly conductive paste now starts to let current leak between commutator lobes causing excess current draw and simultaneously reduces the current through the energized commutator lobes reducing motor torque. High current draw and slow rotor turning = Marty's slow starting woes.

New seals in the starter ends. Clean, clean, clean the starter. Scrupulously clean the commutator kerfs all the way to the bottom, end to end of the kerf. Polish the commutator lobe surfaces. Reuse the remainder of the brushes (or replace if you really want to). Reload the starter into the bike; ride trouble free for another 100k miles.

ionbeam wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:57 pm

raYzerman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:57 pm Save that original starter for forensic analysis........

The brushes wear creating a fine, mostly conductive dust. The copper commutator lobes gets lightly worn by the brushes creating a fine conductive copper dust. Oil starts to seep in. The oil, brush dust and copper dust combine into a very thick paste. The paste starts to collect in the kerfs between the commutator lobes. The mostly conductive paste now starts to let current leak between commutator lobes causing excess current draw and simultaneously reduces the current through the energized commutator lobes reducing motor torque. High current draw and slow rotor turning = Marty's slow starting woes.

New seals in the starter ends. Clean, clean, clean the starter. Scrupulously clean the commutator kerfs all the way to the bottom, end to end of the kerf. Polish the commutator lobe surfaces. Reuse the remainder of the brushes (or replace if you really want to). Reload the starter into the bike; ride trouble free for another 100k miles.

ionbeam wrote:It is very, very rare for such a young starter to fail. It seems that oil sealing is the root of all evil

Any good Man Hack has to have some element of danger. The armature can be chucked in a drill in a horizontal position with the far end in a V-block, then use a mild file to make a poor mans 'lathe'. You aren't cutting down the commutator much, just smoothing the surface.

silverback wrote:

ionbeam wrote:It is very, very rare for such a young starter to fail. It seems that oil sealing is the root of all evil

Any good Man Hack has to have some element of danger. The armature can be chucked in a drill in a horizontal position with the far end in a V-block, then use a mild file to make a poor mans 'lathe'. You aren't cutting down the commutator much, just smoothing the surface.

That could work well. Possibly even some emery cloth.

This reminds me of Galaxy Quest where they asked Tim Allen's character if he could make a rudimentary lathe while trying to fight off a space creature made of large rocks.

This just happens to be the movie where Sigourney Weaver was a blonde in a push up, which was the best part of that movie.

Cav47 wrote:Why am I NOT surprised that a technical post about Marty's starter (immediately upon completion) has morphed into a boob picture! It did take 3 pages, so should I be depressed or impressed? Lol.

Good to hear your equipment is back up to full speed!

silverback wrote:

Cav47 wrote:Why am I NOT surprised that a technical post about Marty's starter (immediately upon completion) has morphed into a boob picture! It did take 3 pages, so should I be depressed or impressed? Lol.

Good to hear your equipment is back up to full speed!

You've heard of Godwyn's law? Well on this forum, it's just a bit different.

silverback wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:18 am

ionbeam wrote:It is very, very rare for such a young starter to fail. It seems that oil sealing is the root of all evil

Any good Man Hack has to have some element of danger. The armature can be chucked in a drill in a horizontal position with the far end in a V-block, then use a mild file to make a poor mans 'lathe'. You aren't cutting down the commutator much, just smoothing the surface.

That could work well. Possibly even some emery cloth.

This reminds me of Galaxy Quest where they asked Tim Allen's character if he could make a rudimentary lathe while trying to fight off a space creature made of large rocks.

This just happens to be the movie where Sigourney Weaver was a blonde in a push up, which was the best part of that movie.

wheatonFJR wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:45 pm

silverback wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:18 am

ionbeam wrote:It is very, very rare for such a young starter to fail. It seems that oil sealing is the root of all evil

Any good Man Hack has to have some element of danger. The armature can be chucked in a drill in a horizontal position with the far end in a V-block, then use a mild file to make a poor mans 'lathe'. You aren't cutting down the commutator much, just smoothing the surface.

That could work well. Possibly even some emery cloth.

This reminds me of Galaxy Quest where they asked Tim Allen's character if he could make a rudimentary lathe while trying to fight off a space creature made of large rocks.

This just happens to be the movie where Sigourney Weaver was a blonde in a push up, which was the best part of that movie.

Alan/ionbeam was JUST going to go there...