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Found this on the inter webs today. Good descriptions in the links from Yamaha about failure mode and possible symptoms of impending failure...The "Associated Documents" links have some good info.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2020/YAMA ... 00#recalls

Cav47 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:00 pm I too have used a Canyon Dancer on both the 15 and 04. Absolutely no problems and like Abercrombie, mine has been thrown in the back of a small pickup or trailer many times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hear it all the time. People do stupid things, get away with it, then boast, “Absolutely no problems! This must be perfectly safe, it worked once or twice!”

Would you tie from the handgrips to lift the front to change a tire? Why not? If not then why do you think it would be a good idea to trailer a motorcycle from the handgrips?

Have seen many in back of trucks or trailers tied on their side stand.

Consider the YouTube genius who lifted his FJR from under the seat to service suspension linkage? He got away with it but others following his video broke subframes.

Abercrombie FJR wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:46 pm I understand your concern but
Hmmm, what don't I know about Cayon Dancer 2 tie downs? I used them dozens of times for the FJR. Arkansas x3, Texas x2, Red Lodge x2, Phoenix, Utah, lacrosse, hopefull a trip to Florida next month and other short hauls likely approaching 20,000 sad miles of safe Canyon Dancer 2 use on a FJR in a trailer or the back of my pickup.

Anything that “supports” the motorcycle from ends of handlebars is trouble.

A bad idea the first time around.
Still a bad idea the second time around.

Saw a new Canyon Dancer in a store once. Package was covered in more caveats, cautions, and disclaimers than a step ladder.

“Everyone has always seen” motorcycles tied from the handlebars so the unknowing see a product for sale toward that end then automatically assume it is right and good. Many motorcycles may be tied inboard on the handlebars. Dirtbike handlebars are stronger than FJR. Few dirtbikes weigh as much as half an FJR.

But even on a dirtbike, over the lower bridge and around the fork is the best. Many “pure race” dirtbikes have rubber isolated handlebars which gets damaged when straps clamp down. Several vendors sell eyelets to bolt to the fork bridge for a quick hook point.

My dirtbike wears Flexx bars which have no tie point. These are articulated with tunable rubbers.

Thought this was a transmission recall thread ………



Canadian FJR

Canadian FJR wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:20 pm Thought this was a transmission recall thread ………



Canadian FJR

Are you new here?

N4HHE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:34 pm

Cav47 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:00 pm I too have used a Canyon Dancer on both the 15 and 04. Absolutely no problems and like Abercrombie, mine has been thrown in the back of a small pickup or trailer many times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hear it all the time. People do stupid things, get away with it, then boast, “Absolutely no problems! This must be perfectly safe, it worked once or twice!”

Would you tie from the handgrips to lift the front to change a tire? Why not? If not then why do you think it would be a good idea to trailer a motorcycle from the handgrips?

Have seen many in back of trucks or trailers tied on their side stand.

Consider the YouTube genius who lifted his FJR from under the seat to service suspension linkage? He got away with it but others following his video broke subframes.

“Haul more worry less”

Canadian FJR wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:20 pm Thought this was a transmission recall thread ………



Canadian FJR

Yeah!

What's a transmission?

Cav47 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:57 pm

N4HHE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:34 pm

Cav47 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:00 pm I too have used a Canyon Dancer on both the 15 and 04. Absolutely no problems and like Abercrombie, mine has been thrown in the back of a small pickup or trailer many times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hear it all the time. People do stupid things, get away with it, then boast, “Absolutely no problems! This must be perfectly safe, it worked once or twice!”

Would you tie from the handgrips to lift the front to change a tire? Why not? If not then why do you think it would be a good idea to trailer a motorcycle from the handgrips?

Have seen many in back of trucks or trailers tied on their side stand.

Consider the YouTube genius who lifted his FJR from under the seat to service suspension linkage? He got away with it but others following his video broke subframes.

“Haul more worry less”

You'll get used to him. He has to correct everyone on everything. It's his way or no way, you'll see now that he's gotten going. And note- if you disagree you're uneducated and he will post for pages to baffle you with bullshit. Get ready, it's coming. It always does with him.

rbentnail wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:43 am You'll get used to him. He has to correct everyone on everything. It's his way or no way, you'll see now that he's gotten going. And note- if you disagree you're uneducated and he will post for pages to baffle you with bullshit. Get ready, it's coming. It always does with him.

So says the one who deletes a post in a motor oil viscosity thread where in the discussion one post observes viscosity varies between brands, then another well researched and referenced post dares point out the same problem exists among suspension oils where exact viscosity is very critical to function, and that gets deleted. Said to be “off topic.”

Back on topic, two recall letters arrived today. Seems I am one of the last to receive the letter, but seems to be a region thing. Another nearby got his brake switch recall letter for a 2014 same day. I blame delay on the Post Office which is wonky these days.

My dealer is closed on Mondays. We last talked about this 10+ days ago when my VIN first hit positive in Yamaha’s online lookup. No call back. I’ll be calling again tomorrow as only just now served notice “do not ride” so I want it fixed quickly.

I got the Yamaha letters today for my 2018 also. Stopped by my service department at my dealer on Saturday- was very encouraged. They had already done 6 bikes and seemed like they had the recall under control. I actually rode there on my 2018, thinking I might trade it in. It was such a pleasure to ride (even on a cold rainy day) that I’ll keep this bike and trust “Mama Yama” to make it right! Love my FJR!

N4HHE wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:57 pm Back on topic, two recall letters arrived today. Seems I am one of the last to receive the letter, but seems to be a region thing. Another nearby got his brake switch recall letter for a 2014 same day. I blame delay on the Post Office which is wonky these days.

My dealer is closed on Mondays. We last talked about this 10+ days ago when my VIN first hit positive in Yamaha’s online lookup. No call back. I’ll be calling again tomorrow as only just now served notice “do not ride” so I want it fixed quickly.

Have you guys seen the video of the recall being done without removing the engine over on fjrowners? Might be worth an query.

Can’t find it. Maybe add a link.



Canadian FJR

This would be the perfect week to have mine done. But next week is the week. Hopefully, they’ll want it in and out and I’ll have it back in a few days. Dropping Saturday, as I’ll be too busy to do so Tuesday.

I don't recall a video per se, but there were pics of one done in Spain, and an Ontario guy didn't have his engine pulled. The Spanish one was interesting, it also looked like they did not split the cases... or maybe there just aren't pics of that. I believe one was done in like 11 hours of labour with no engine removal.

My '16 is being started on today...

'Told 'em "might as well do me a valve check and change me plugs while you're at it"

N4HHE wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:53 pm Anything that “supports” the motorcycle from ends of handlebars is trouble.

A bad idea the first time around.
Still a bad idea the second time around.

I agree... I know of one Concourse 14 that got handlebar fatigue and broke it using one of the handlebar support methods. I never had and will never use this type. Ive trailers many bike over the years and there are many other ways, not easier, but better - to tie down a bike.

I received my recall letters over the weekend. Waiting for my appointment.