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Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:15 pm
by kieefjr
Are these Norm Kern modded filter adapters still available?
I don't play in FB, is there another option to contact Mr. Kern?

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:28 pm
by wheatonFJR
kieefjr wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:15 pm Are these Norm Kern modded filter adapters still available?
I don't play in FB, is there another option to contact Mr. Kern?
Is he a member here? Can you send him a PM?

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:48 pm
by kieefjr
wheatonFJR wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:28 pm
kieefjr wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:15 pm Are these Norm Kern modded filter adapters still available?
I don't play in FB, is there another option to contact Mr. Kern?
Is he a member here? Can you send him a PM?
Didn't find him on here, had to go to another sandbox. :(

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:05 pm
by CollingsBob
kieefjr wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:48 pm
wheatonFJR wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:28 pm
kieefjr wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:15 pm Are these Norm Kern modded filter adapters still available?
I don't play in FB, is there another option to contact Mr. Kern?
Is he a member here? Can you send him a PM?
Didn't find him on here, had to go to another sandbox. :(
Due to Covid lockdown measures I cant travel to any other sandboxes...I wonder if he could stand outside this sandbox and yell..

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:53 pm
by kieefjr
CollingsBob wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:05 pm
kieefjr wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:48 pm
wheatonFJR wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:28 pm

Is he a member here? Can you send him a PM?
Didn't find him on here, had to go to another sandbox. :(

Due to Covid lockdown measures I cant travel to any other sandboxes...I wonder if he could stand outside this sandbox and yell..
As long as he’s wearing a mask.

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:42 pm
by fontanaman
Hand tight. Never had any problems removing it or leakage.

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:07 am
by HotRodZilla
CollingsBob wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:23 am In my opinion it looks like another instance where a user group has found a better method than the factory..perhaps in this case the factory was/is being overly cautious, defaulting to a measurable value.
I don't think this is a user group technique. I'd swear the oil filter boxes used to say, "Turn until the gasket makes contact and then another 1/4 turn," or something like that. I never read the manual well enough to realize they had a torque spec on there. I'd think that would be pretty random with the rubber gasket and the possibility of oil on the threads.

I have changed hundreds of oil filters and after removing the first filter that was always put on by Hercules, the rest came off pretty easily with just a filter wrench.

Like Bungie, I usually change the oil cold. I figure that's when the most has drained into the pan. It may take an extra minute or two to completely drain, but what's an extra minute or two? Not sure it matters since I don't do our vehicles anymore, so those always get done hot.

There's a lot of rumors and old wives' tales regarding oil changes. Do whatever makes you happy.

As far as the Norm Kern modification, if you know someone with a lathe, or have a place that will do the work, it's simple enough to do. Just remove the union bolt or buy a new one. Shave 60 thousands off the OUTER face of the bolt and reinstall it. After that the bike will accept both concave and convex filters.

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:32 am
by raYzerman
Speaking of draining the oil.... here's a peek inside an FJR oil pan. To the right of the drain plug is a baffle, to the right of that the oil pump pickup screen. The oil has to make its way to the drain plug via some narrow paths, then into a 7-8mm wide channel to the drain hole... if you want to help it a bit, while on the centerstand, put a piece of plywood under the right leg of the centerstand, but that would be being anal..... Note, this pic from project bike oil pan that had 90k miles on it. The black spots where the pickup goes is from dirty hardware being thrown into the pan while it was off. No need to be anal.


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Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:10 pm
by fjrob
You guys change the oil filter??

Re: Oil filter tightness..

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:28 pm
by wheatonFJR
fjrob wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:10 pm You guys change the oil filter??
Every time I check valve clearances. Why?

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