Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:58 pm
Luv my set of Vessel JIS screwdrivers, as Festus says...worth every penny!
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Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:16 am
Ordered the bit kit from the Canadian source..... looking forward to playing with them.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:04 am
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:42 am
They are just good at screwing around.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:56 pm
There are two schools of thought on JIS screwdrivers. This article is is pro JIS this one says it don't matter anymore and a representative from Vessel says they stopped making JIS screwdrivers a few years ago, because their current lineup will work with both Phillips and JIS screws.
Let the technical howling begin.
Recently I removed a sticky Phillips screw from my DR using a 50 year old Montgomery Ward Hand Impact Driver with a #2 bit. It took 12 wacks but the screw came out and will be replaced with an Allen head screw. The number #2 bit has seen better days so I ordered two new ones from McMaster-Carr.
Let the technical howling begin.
Recently I removed a sticky Phillips screw from my DR using a 50 year old Montgomery Ward Hand Impact Driver with a #2 bit. It took 12 wacks but the screw came out and will be replaced with an Allen head screw. The number #2 bit has seen better days so I ordered two new ones from McMaster-Carr.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:04 pm
I have never really looked, but the rumor is the screwdriver in the tool kit is a JIS. That's been talked about a lot on the other Forum. Its probably been 10 years since I looked at my OEM toolkit, so conformation would be a good thing.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:22 pm
Well, while looking forward to the JIS bits, after reading a bunch of that, I'm back to making an improvement to the Phillips by grinding a tad off the pointy tip to let it go into a JIS...... then to really confuse you, what about the Posidrive (PZ1, PZ2, etc.), which had a sharp rib right in the valley of the grind, which won't work on anything but a Posidrive screw (has a mating valley to accept that slight rib)..... IKEA uses those, and do you think you can go find a Posidrive bit at your local hardware? Nope, seems Posidrive (far superior to Phillips IMHO) has lost favour. A Phillips driver will cam right out of a PZ, and I'll bet so will a JIS. When my bits come in, I'll compare brand new to the one in the OEM tool kit.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:37 pm
I suggest using a Henway.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:46 am
What's a henway??
....About 6lbs. Lol....
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:00 am
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:51 pm
Lol. You saw I answered that at the bottom of my post right?fontanaman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:00 am
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:53 pm
Nope I did not see that St the bottom of your post.
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:16 pm
Oh boy.
I have used JIS since I started out in RC helis back in 97 ish. They all use JIS. Most (but not all) Japanese import cars use JIS.
GM uses Posi-drive which is not Phillips or JIS. It's another proprietary "solution" to the cross head conundrum.
But wait, there's more!
Reed-Prince made another crosshead screw that sucked just as bad as the rest.
Phillips-King also had a type that was kinda like Phillips ...but different...and still sucked, but on aircraft.
There are others, but I can't remember them all. But I do know they all sucked.
Also, if you have some BS manufacturer that doesn't maintain their stamping dies (or just uses shitty ones to begin with) then it really doesn't matter what kind of driver you have...it won't fit anyway.
Cross head screws suck. (Not sure if I said that already)
I have used JIS since I started out in RC helis back in 97 ish. They all use JIS. Most (but not all) Japanese import cars use JIS.
GM uses Posi-drive which is not Phillips or JIS. It's another proprietary "solution" to the cross head conundrum.
But wait, there's more!
Reed-Prince made another crosshead screw that sucked just as bad as the rest.
Phillips-King also had a type that was kinda like Phillips ...but different...and still sucked, but on aircraft.
There are others, but I can't remember them all. But I do know they all sucked.
Also, if you have some BS manufacturer that doesn't maintain their stamping dies (or just uses shitty ones to begin with) then it really doesn't matter what kind of driver you have...it won't fit anyway.
Cross head screws suck. (Not sure if I said that already)
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:49 am
The JIS bits arrived yesterday...I think I’ll put a piece of heat shrink on the shaft ( of the screwdriver bits, you animals..) so they dont get confused with the plethora of other bits...Then I’m going to wander around the neighbourhood practicing random acts of loosening..
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:50 pm
They obviously don't have many guns in Canada...CollingsBob wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:49 am The JIS bits arrived yesterday...I think I’ll put a piece of heat shrink on the shaft ( of the screwdriver bits, you animals..) so they dont get confused with the plethora of other bits...Then I’m going to wander around the neighbourhood practicing random acts of loosening..
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:32 pm
We don’t...other than the shotguns under my bed...rifles don’t count, right?
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:07 pm
It depends on which person you plan on "adjusting" the looseness of their connectors...are they good with a rifle?CollingsBob wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:32 pm We don’t...other than the shotguns under my bed...rifles don’t count, right?
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:05 am
Oh, I’d do them up again...that way I get twice the pleasure of using them..
Re: JIS screwdrivers
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:00 pm
What are we talking about again?CollingsBob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:05 am Oh, I’d do them up again...that way I get twice the pleasure of using them..