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Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:11 pm
by clocklaw
bungie4 wrote:I don't want her to comfortable back there.. I like riding alone :D but I don't want her complaining either.
It's not like you're bringing her along to be comfortable on the bike anyway....you just want her to be there when you're done riding (the bike) for the day. :mrgreen:

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:34 pm
by Burnspot
bungie4 wrote:Okay, so any feedback on the Airhawk for the passengers bum?

I've got a Russell. The pillion seat is just a recovered stocker though, I Love it, but the gf is talking about coming down to EOM 13 with me. I know my last gf came out to CFR with me and her ass was toast on the trip out there (How numb is it?). Ended up buying an ass-ring at a drug store for the trip home. She said it worked fantastic. But it looks really REALLY stupid on the back of the bike with a sheepskin doing it's best to cover it.

So I'm wondering if the AirHawk would be a more permanent solution. I don't want her to comfortable back there.. I like riding alone :D but I don't want her complaining either.
Bob got Janet an Airhawk before their cross country tour up to NAFO last year (we had suggested it at last year's FJR Campout)...apparently, it worked wonders for her. I'm sure Bob will elaborate.

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:15 pm
by bungie4
clocklaw wrote:
bungie4 wrote:I don't want her to comfortable back there.. I like riding alone :D but I don't want her complaining either.
It's not like you're bringing her along to be comfortable on the bike anyway....you just want her to be there when you're done riding (the bike) for the day. :mrgreen:
Well ya, I may be crazy but I'm not stupid!

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:36 pm
by Johnny80s
Highly recommend a real custom seat like Bill Mayer or Russell over the air hawk or similar items.

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:35 pm
by bgross
Bounce wrote:Any saddle that needs something extra is, by definition, a partial solution. You should be able to do the miles you want without any pain. If you have to cut your dailies or your totals down (or stop more than you planned) then whatever you have isn't up to the task you've laid before it.
Agree, but.

On my Wingabago I was faced with two issues as mileage increased: my knees ached (and I hobbled around at fuel stops) and my buns began to BURN.
Once I mounted highway pegs, BOTH issues resolved. One incremental expenditure did the trick.

On the FJR (so far) I've avoided either by moving my position around BEFORE the aching or burning start. The highway pegs are not comfortable for more than 5 minutes at a time, but it's enough to stay ahead of the discomfort between fuel stops.

YMMV

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:01 pm
by Intech
Burnspot wrote:
bungie4 wrote:Okay, so any feedback on the Airhawk for the passengers bum?

I've got a Russell. The pillion seat is just a recovered stocker though, I Love it, but the gf is talking about coming down to EOM 13 with me. I know my last gf came out to CFR with me and her ass was toast on the trip out there (How numb is it?). Ended up buying an ass-ring at a drug store for the trip home. She said it worked fantastic. But it looks really REALLY stupid on the back of the bike with a sheepskin doing it's best to cover it.

So I'm wondering if the AirHawk would be a more permanent solution. I don't want her to comfortable back there.. I like riding alone :D but I don't want her complaining either.
Bob got Janet an Airhawk before their cross country tour up to NAFO last year (we had suggested it at last year's FJR Campout)...apparently, it worked wonders for her. I'm sure Bob will elaborate.
Jay (Violione) let her borrow his for the full day on Saturday at that campout. That was all it took to sell her. After getting the air pressure right, which had to be adjusted for temperature, it did the trick for her. She was much the same as me. After several 600 mile days in a row the asses were about the only thing that wasn't worn out.

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:07 pm
by Intech
bgross wrote:
Bounce wrote:Any saddle that needs something extra is, by definition, a partial solution. You should be able to do the miles you want without any pain. If you have to cut your dailies or your totals down (or stop more than you planned) then whatever you have isn't up to the task you've laid before it.
Agree, but.

On my Wingabago I was faced with two issues as mileage increased: my knees ached (and I hobbled around at fuel stops) and my buns began to BURN.
Once I mounted highway pegs, BOTH issues resolved. One incremental expenditure did the trick.

On the FJR (so far) I've avoided either by moving my position around BEFORE the aching or burning start. The highway pegs are not comfortable for more than 5 minutes at a time, but it's enough to stay ahead of the discomfort between fuel stops.

YMMV
Since there is really nothing that is absolute for everyone on this bike, or any bike for that matter, a Russell seat may not be the solution either. There are so many factors that can affect riding comfort. The seat is a major part of it, but, as bgross points out, there are minor tweaks that can make huge differences for individuals.

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:08 pm
by bungie4
Intech wrote:Jay (Violione) let her borrow his for the full day on Saturday at that campout. That was all it took to sell her. After getting the air pressure right, which had to be adjusted for temperature, it did the trick for her. She was much the same as me. After several 600 mile days in a row the asses were about the only thing that wasn't worn out.
Well I guess that settles it then. So, the next question becomes what size... time to bust out my google-fu.

Thanks Bob! (and Janet!) (and.. Jay!)

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:30 pm
by Intech
Steve,
If you do get one remember that you only want just enough air to provide a seperation. Overfilling it give the sensation of sliding around. If you ride in any heat it will have to be deflated as it heats up. Very easy to adjust. We drove in some heat last year too!

Re: Airhawk question

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:41 pm
by bungie4
Intech wrote:Steve,
If you do get one remember that you only want just enough air to provide a seperation. Overfilling it give the sensation of sliding around. If you ride in any heat it will have to be deflated as it heats up. Very easy to adjust. We drove in some heat last year too!
Ya, I figured that out with the ass-ring I bought Christie at CFR. It was much better when it inflated just enough to get her butt off the seat. In fact, I think I let more air out of it about half way home.

It was 11 hours door to door that trip and she did it with a bruised tailbone on the trip back (she kept sliding forward and lifting herself up and sitting ON the rear hand rail). Said she was perfectly comfortable. Maybe I'll just save the money and make her ride the ring of shame instead. Those Airhawks are Spendy!