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Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:44 pm
by Uncle Hud
gixxerjasen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:28 pm
Just to make something clear, for those reading this that might not be familiar and are looking to tip toe into this..
Spotwalla is not Spot. Spotwalla is an amazing free service provided by Jason who is a really great guy to keep this thing going for everyone out there using it. It can integrate with multiple services of your choosing. It takes data from those services and plots it on the map. Spotwalla is not logging at 5 minute intervals, that interval is set by your device.
You are absolutely correct, sir; and you are correcting my attempt to simplify things.
As I said a few posts earlier: " ...
let's agree that Spotwalla just places data points on a map. Those points come from a data feed from SPOT, SWConnect, Bubbler, or a few other devices or apps. SWConnect and Bubbler depend on cellphone connection and a data plan."
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:25 pm
by raYzerman
Was at a local tech shop today....... top secret there is a SPOT4 coming which will have two-way communication.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:41 pm
by HotRodZilla
I have waffled on a SPOT since they first came out. I have ALWAYS been turned off by their cost and shenanigans. Recently, when FYB and ETJ we're heading into Albuquerque, Bob's SPOT stayed stuck at their last stop for about 30 minutes. My plan was to meet them as they hit the east side of ABQ. Bob's SPOT showed them about 5 miles east of Albuquerque, except, he and ETJ were already at the restaurant, downtown. It took me another 10 minutes to get there, and the location had not moved. That added to my negative issues count.
I guess I have no idea if that was SPOT's fault or Spotwalla's fault, but it wasn't convenient, and goes hand in hand with the reports of people going down, and the SPOT sending help to the wrong location.
Mostly just opinions and observations, so maybe I'm off base. Maybe not...
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:31 am
by raYzerman
SPOT has to see satellites..... perhaps in an area of poor satellite coverage, deep valley lots of trees, high cliffs, etc.? Older SPOT 1 did not have a great antenna, SPOT2 better, SPOT3 better yet.......
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:11 am
by bungie4
raYzerman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:31 am
SPOT has to see satellites..... perhaps in an area of poor satellite coverage, deep valley lots of trees, high cliffs, etc.? Older SPOT 1 did not have a great antenna, SPOT2 better, SPOT3 better yet.......
Ya, but the Spot 1 batteries last for ever. Oh ya, My Gen 1 Spot is for sale. Best offer.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:12 am
by Festus
To me, I ride alone 90% of the time. $15 a month to have the ability to summon help if needed is money well spent. Even if it's a mechanical issue and not an emergency. One push of a button and I've got a trailer on the way. For me, I'll pay $15 a month for that piece of mind all day long. It was only $75 with their 1/2 off sale, so I don't have a ton invested.
My Spot is strapped onto me. Most people have their phones in a phone mount. Remember the video where the guy in CA hit went off the mountain and his bike landed in a tree (and stayed there?) Kind of hard to use that cell phone when your shoulder is broken and your bike is stuck 30 ft up in a tree. WHo knows where your cell phone is?
I like the product and I use it. If my jacket is on (which it is 100% of the time), then my spot is on me.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:36 am
by raYzerman
http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/ca ... tor-beacon
I haven't found anything cheaper than the SPOT (yet), but there are options.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:41 am
by gixxerjasen
Considering that it looks like the new Garmin InReach devices also function as a GPS device, the cost of entry isn't so bad. While the GPS doesn't look ideal compared to what we use on our FJR's, it does appear to be very similar to what the ADV and dirt bike crowd use. If you were in the market for that type GPS and a SPOT tracker, the Garmin now has the edge all the way around, for cost of device and cost of service.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:50 pm
by extrememarine
This has always been the true reason to stomach the expense - I've wrecked, hard. There was no way I was going to be able to crawl through the debris field to find the SPOT if it was on the bike. It's on me, always. I don't have the SPOT to put dots on a google map for peeps to stalk me while they are at work (JOE!).
For those that have it solely for that bread-crumb feature, they are wasting money (pay for the one time GPSBubbler PRO app and connect it to Spotwalla.com). Cell coverage is questionable at best in a lot of areas - especially where the best twisty roads are - so you cannot rely on a cell phone to reach 911 if you're laying in a ditch or off the side of a mountain. SPOT is not perfect either, but the coverage for SOS is much better than cell phone coverage.
SPOT is simply providing a service and until there is significant competition in the market, they have the business - pay it or don't. If you die in a ditch somewhere, we'll be sad - if you survive because the EMT's found you because SPOT got them to you before you died, fantastic.
Wayne
Festus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:12 am
My Spot is strapped onto me. Most people have their phones in a phone mount. Remember the video where the guy in CA hit went off the mountain and his bike landed in a tree (and stayed there?) Kind of hard to use that cell phone when your shoulder is broken and your bike is stuck 30 ft up in a tree. WHo knows where your cell phone is?
I like the product and I use it. If my jacket is on (which it is 100% of the time), then my spot is on me.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:22 pm
by El Toro Joe
extrememarine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:50 pm
I don't have the SPOT to put dots on a google map for peeps to stalk me while they are at work (JOE!).
Wayne
I didn't get it for you to stalk me...But it did make my wife's life a little easier, while I was gone.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:26 pm
by Intech
Joe and I both lost coverage for over 2 hours while in Kings Canyon on the YFO trip. It is a steep canyon.
Re: Spot Price Increase
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:49 pm
by wheatonFJR
El Toro Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:22 pm
extrememarine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:50 pm
I don't have the SPOT to put dots on a google map for peeps to stalk me while they are at work (JOE!).
Wayne
I didn't get it for you to stalk me...But it did make my wife's life a little easier, while I was gone.
So it's not you stalking Wayne, it's your wife?