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I certainly respect your anal retentiveness and you right to your opinion but I hate to see a trade painted with such a broad brush. I've been a mechanic almost as long as you have been alive. Started at 15 and now at 71 I'm still at it. I always treat each job as if it is my own and my comeback score isn't zero, but it's damn close. There are incompetent people in all trades but to assume is not good.
No offense intended, just another anal retentive opinion.

Lets hope JYARP29E6 is the start and my JYARP29E4 falls in the right direction. I honestly dont know where i would go, ie trust, to have the work done.

N4HHE wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:06 am My VIN is JYARP29E5... and NHTSA document starts with JYARP29E6... NHTSA says they+Yamaha do not recognize my VIN as anything but Yamaha. Yamaha recognizes it and lists the side stand firmware recall as having been performed. This is correct. Nonetheless I went out barefoot tonight in 43°F with flashlight to verify my VIN.

I have the one of three 2016s from my dealer’s first shipment, received late March 2016.

So either mine is not included or not included yet.

I once bought a brand new expensive dirtbike. At 12 miles noticed oil where it shouldn’t be. Defective engine casing. Importer sent new casing to dealer and about a week later you couldn’t tell it had been apart.

The Ray's are going to stick together.... I feel the same way. The guy who replaces your tranny is going to be qualified to do the job, and while I don't like people working on my bikes, if this were mine, I'd take it to a dealer..... the instruction sheets are quite comprehensive.

In my opinion, the job is not technically difficult. There aren't that many things that can go wrong in putting it back together. It's pretty much unbolting the old stuff and bolting the new stuff in place. The thing that worried me the most wasn't anything difficult, but rather slightly unpredictable and that was sealing the cases up. You have to apply the sealer along the edges, around holes, etc, and there are a couple places you don't want it. There are places, if too much sealer is applied, when mashed, it can block an oil hole in the casing. Being that all you can do is squirt the stuff on and then bolt it down, you are left with a little bit of concern that everything sealed and nothing squished into a place you didn't want it to, based on the way you seated them together by hand (not sitting one side down a little sooner than the other side).

That was my biggest concern. No leaks and nothing plugged up. Outside of that, it's a pretty simple job, just time consuming.

fjray wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:55 pm I certainly respect your anal retentiveness and you right to your opinion but I hate to see a trade painted with such a broad brush. I've been a mechanic almost as long as you have been alive. Started at 15 and now at 71 I'm still at it. I always treat each job as if it is my own and my comeback score isn't zero, but it's damn close. There are incompetent people in all trades but to assume is not good.
No offense intended, just another anal retentive opinion.

Absolutely no offence taken, and respectfully, I meant no harm with my flippant comment.

My personality aside, with only 1 (ONE) exception, I have yet to find any paid motorcycle mechanics within 100 miles of me that I would trust to do the recall correctly. I've seen their work and I've seen their attitude, and neither one leaves me any confidence. I did paint my comment with a broad brush, but when in Rome, one must deal with the Romans. Still, I'm sure it's not that way everywhere.

There was a short time when I earned my living as a mechanic. Since I didn't starve to death, obviously, I moved on. But I didn't like it back then when peeps like me stereotyped the profession either. So - message understood and received with apology.

FWIW, Ray - I'd trust you to fix anything on my bike. I've seen what you did for Carver.

Wouldn't it be great if they just swapped out the motor
Just think of the faster turnaround and how much that would boost customer loyalty and the brand appeal to new riders.

fontanaman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:07 pm Uncle Hud ends his post with this: _________________ You can't get into trouble in second gear. _________________

Not anymore! You feeling lucky punk are ya?

Since my local dealership changed out my second gear cog two years ago and negotiated with Momma Yama to get the work done under YES, I should change the signature to ... I can't get into trouble in second gear.

Hppants wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:46 pm

fjray wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:55 pm I certainly respect your anal retentiveness and you right to your opinion but I hate to see a trade painted with such a broad brush. I've been a mechanic almost as long as you have been alive. Started at 15 and now at 71 I'm still at it. I always treat each job as if it is my own and my comeback score isn't zero, but it's damn close. There are incompetent people in all trades but to assume is not good.
No offense intended, just another anal retentive opinion.

Absolutely no offence taken, and respectfully, I meant no harm with my flippant comment.

My personality aside, with only 1 (ONE) exception, I have yet to find any paid motorcycle mechanics within 100 miles of me that I would trust to do the recall correctly. I've seen their work and I've seen their attitude, and neither one leaves me any confidence. I did paint my comment with a broad brush, but when in Rome, one must deal with the Romans. Still, I'm sure it's not that way everywhere.

There was a short time when I earned my living as a mechanic. Since I didn't starve to death, obviously, I moved on. But I didn't like it back then when peeps like me stereotyped the profession either. So - message understood and received with apology.

FWIW, Ray - I'd trust you to fix anything on my bike. I've seen what you did for Carver.

You should see this man's motorcycle. It is clean. He takes great pride in his machine. The rear drive is so darn clean I asked him how it stays so shiny.

Hey Pants you want to trade a slightly used 17 ES for your Cherry Red 14A model that may be burning a smidge of oil?

On a happy note, I ran my VIN with Yamaha and it is not on the recall list. Unless they haven't updated it.........2018A.

I’ve run a bunch of VIN’s through that tool, from the affected ranges. None of them returned with a trans recall. I don’t think it’s populated. I think by Friday we’ll hear that folks are starting to get notified in the USA. And the vin database should be updated.

Planned owner notification date is Jan 13-15, 2010 per this document.

Let's hope this plan holds more water than Wheaties 2020 trip to the West Coast trip. Just joking with ya Mark. Hope you are doing well.

fontanaman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:27 pm Planned owner notification date is Jan 13-15, 2010 per this document.

Let's hope this plan holds more water than Wheaties 2020 trip to the West Coast trip. Just joking with ya Mark. Hope you are doing well.

I think the letter has been approved, and they’re just gearing up for notifications. I hope Cypress is running the show. If they are true to form, the folks in the Kennesaw office are too busy finger-popping each other’s sixes to contribute meaningfully to the effort.

While I was waiting for my rear tire Saturday I was talking to one of the guys at the dealership about the recall. I was hoping he had some type of inside information. He told me he learns about stuff quicker on the forums than he does from Yamaha.

Gypsy’s bike goes under the knife tomorrow.


Canadian FJR

Canadian FJR wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:59 pm Gypsy’s bike goes under the knife tomorrow.
Canadian FJR

Best wishes. At least it is being done in winter. Wish mine was.

I have a different bias because I have trailers.... load it up and get it in to beat the spring rush....

bill lumberg wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:21 am I’ve run a bunch of VIN’s through that tool, from the affected ranges. None of them returned with a trans recall. I don’t think it’s populated. I think by Friday we’ll hear that folks are starting to get notified in the USA. And the vin database should be updated.

Well I was on a happy note until this Bill. :{

raYzerman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:39 am I have trailers....

Noted...