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Uncle Hud wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:32 am Submarine sailors work the bolt and torque it, then have a second guy check it independently, and then a third.
So which guy is right? The last guy or the first guy? The guy with the most stripes?
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wheatonFJR wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:47 am
Uncle Hud wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:32 am Submarine sailors work the bolt and torque it, then have a second guy check it independently, and then a third.
So which guy is right? The last guy or the first guy? The guy with the most stripes?
The answer is obvious. The guy who ends up with Jolene.
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Festus wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm
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HOLD UP! So what IS this part and where does it go?
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Viper_Dad wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:04 pm
Festus wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm
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HOLD UP! So what IS this part and where does it go?
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Viper_Dad wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:04 pm
Festus wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm
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HOLD UP! So what IS this part and where does it go?
Clutch release cylinder!
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Ahhh, so it's not an important piece. Got it.
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Festus wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:22 pm
Viper_Dad wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:04 pm
Festus wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm
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Clutch release cylinder!
Looks like it has boogers on it...has Bust or Marty been down by y'all?
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Prolly Marty dropped by and left an extra part there so you'd be driving yourself nuts wondering where it goes....... yet for some reason we keep letting him show up at tech days.
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Viper_Dad wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:04 pm
Festus wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm
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Looks like a dickfer... :lol:
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El Toro Joe wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:08 pm Looks like a dickfer... :lol:
What's a....?
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Remind me to never let you guys touch Jolene🤪
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Festus wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:30 pm Remind me to never let you guys touch Jolene🤪
too late.
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I have no idea what a "dickfer" is, but as I think about it, now every time I look at that part, I have this insatiable desire to cover my crotch. I have no intentions of google-ing it. Some things are better left unknown....

So..... if I'm up to speed on this, the motor is assembled and ready to go back to the frame?
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Hppants wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:58 amSo..... if I'm up to speed on this, the motor is assembled and ready to go back to the frame?
The lower end is back together, just need to put the clutch in and start putting the covers back on. Haven't had a chance to get over there. My plan was to get it knocked out this weekend, but work is getting in the way with my goofing off and I suspect I'll have to work all weekend.
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Well that sux. Seems like there should be some gathering at your place for when you turn that motor over and ride off...
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wheatonFJR wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:25 am Well that sux. Seems like there should be some gathering at your place for when you turn that motor over and ride off...
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Hppants wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:58 am I have no idea what a "dickfer" is.
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^^^^ Nope. Not clicking that. Nope.
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Torque angle method is to stretch the bolts passed their yield point and exceed the elastic region of the stress strain curve (I can explain that if you need, in a very long, dry presentation with several thousand big, boring words).

By doing this, it takes thread friction out of the clamping force. Since threads have tolerances too, the amount of friction can vary substantially, which, in turn, varies how much clamp down force each bolt has. More thread friction, at a given torque gives less clamp down force.

So, you torque to the point the bolt starts to stretch. Most torque to yield bolts have a machined neck in them which is a tight tolerance diameter. So, now the clamp down force becomes a function of yield stress in the material and that, with a constant diameter, is very consistent.

Its like bending a bar. When its still in the springy stage, the force to change it's shape changes a lot, but when it finally bends, it is a nice constant force to keep bending it, until it breaks. Thats what happens with the bolts.

So...the moral of the story is that those are a one time use item.

You did get new bolts for the torque to yield locations, didn't you?
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