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Pinlock fogging

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So, I hear a lot about people who love their pinlock visors. Well, mine fogs up. Not as fast as the part outside the pinlock, but still too fast to be usable.

Any suggestions on how to remedy that?
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silverback wrote:So, I hear a lot about people who love their pinlock visors. Well, mine fogs up. Not as fast as the part outside the pinlock, but still too fast to be usable.

Any suggestions on how to remedy that?
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What about building something like this? LINK
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You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.
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0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!
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LKLD wrote:You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.
I have heard about that...my dad lives in Alaska... the natives have strange customs!
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silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:32 am
LKLD wrote:You could try a thin film of Vaseline on the seal.
I have heard about that...my dad lives in Alaska... the natives have strange customs!
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silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am
0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
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0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am
0face wrote:What about building something like this? LINK
I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....
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You know there are snowmobile helmets with heated visors already built in........ this is one brand, I'm sure there are more....
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RacinRay wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:54 pm Try this link. http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2017/01/pi ... gSjrHpOnqA
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silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:44 pm
0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am I like the way you think!
You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....
It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
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0face wrote:
silverback wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:44 pm
0face wrote: You can find the kits for "defrosters"... what would be cool is if you could add a power plug at the collar of your electric jacket.
That wouldn't be terribly difficult.

Maybe the next million dollar idea is a heating element in the chin vent to act as a defroster without any visor obstruction....
It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
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Heat isn't too big an issue, could just use an old glow plug off a Chevy 6.2L diesel.

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0face wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:44 pm It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
No worries. I shaved that off after my film career ended in the late 70s.
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wheatonFJR wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:33 pm ...
0face wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:44 pm It would have to pretty hot and the vent would have to flow air correctly... plus, you run the risk of Wheaton's sweet 'stach catching fire.
No worries. I shaved that off after my film career ended in the late 70s.
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"Wheatie does the cornholeo." 1976 I believe, epic- if you are into that kind of thing. :shock:
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Ok, back on topic. If your pinloc is fogging, it isn't sealed properly to the visor, or you cleaned it wrong. This could be due to a crappy seal on the Pinloc insert (I've seen this on some of mine), poor installation (too much/little/uneven pressure pushing the insert into the visor), or improper care of the insert. The fit of the insert to the visor is very delicate and IMO is where most problems lie. Even a small gap between the silicone seal and the visor will create fog between the two. With the visor and insert both being made of flexible materials, it amazes me that any of them work. The problem I have is that I like to ride with my visor up often and the constant air pressure moves the pinloc slightly out of position. Then the next time I need it to work correctly, it doesn't. Sometimes, they just aren't mounted well and any amount of adjustment isn't enough. The big "user mistake" is the cleaning. If you use plexus or something equivalent on the insert, you might as well throw them away and start over. The inserts are designed to adsorb a certain amount of moisture to prevent fogging. Those products clog the coating on the insert and prevent that from happening.
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I try to raise the visor as little as possible, and raise the entire chin bar most of the time. I usually can get maybe two seasons out of a pin lock insert, before they start fitting poorly.
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As Phil said, if it’s fogging, it’s not installed properly or worn out. They can drift down on some helmets over time, and/or get grit in the bead, which etches the visor over time.
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Found the slightest gap in it.

Today SAP was supposed to be down at work for a while. IT was supposed to be working on it. Jerks actually finished early, so I have to work tags instead of fixing my pinlock.

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