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stainless-steel lines

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Does anyone have any experience with Galfer braided stainless-steel hydraulic lines on a 2006 AE? I spoke w/Galfer, and they have a kit for the 2006 A. The kit comes with 11 lines, including a line for the clutch, which, of course, there is none on the AE. They do not have an AE-specific kit. I'm hoping I will simply end up with an unused line, but does anyone know if there are any gotchas I should know about before I order the kit?
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I had them on my Warrior and ZX14 and liked them.
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The only "gotcha" I have heard is that they are a phenomenal pain in the ass to install.
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i heard the same pita to install. plus, more of a bling thing than performance enhancing for anything less than a 10/10's rider. after i "had" to have the ss clutch line on a group buy years ago, i still look at it today and think "what's the point"? spend your $$$ on lighting. just my .02....


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SS lines are a must on any bike regardless what your skill level. You no longer get spongy feeling. Makes it linear and fully predictable. No delay as there is no expansion of the lines

I am partial to HEL lines as I sell them, but there was a technical reason in going with them vs others for me


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Cougar8000 wrote:SS lines are a must on any bike regardless what your skill level. You no longer get spongy feeling. Makes it linear and fully predictable. No delay as there is no expansion of the lines

I am partial to HEL lines as I sell them, but there was a technical reason in going with them vs others for me


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Sure thing. What ever makes you sleep better you cheap skate :)

Seriously so. Difference is a night and day in braking performance.


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Btw. Did you know that OEM lines needs to be replaced every 4-5 yrs?


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I have HEL SS brake lines and there really is a difference in the feel of the brakes over OEM lines. I wouldn't say it is 'night and day' and I believe that the OEM lines are perfectly fine, but the SS ones do provide a noticeably better feel. I do not have SS on the clutch. If I had ABS I would probably not have bothered, and with linked brakes and ABS, no way. There are just too many lines.
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Clutch is not needed. But brake lines highly advisable. I noticed a huge difference when I went with SS lines

It might not be something many worry, but OEM lines dry out and flex more with age. That is why they should be replaced like any other part that is marked to be replaced. It is a wear out item even so many don't think so

Just like until recently many didn't think it was vital to change brake fluid. Dang, many grease monkeys still don't think it has to be done and my brother is one of them

HEL lines and most likely others have a lifetime warranty and unless damaged don't need to be changed evwr


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I cannot speak for my FJR, but I installed HEL lines on my TDM and the difference was astounding! Rock solid brakes now....of course that was a 92 bike, so the old lines were 22 years old.
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I put stainless steel lines on the brake lines of my FJR... didn't put them on the clucth lines under the advice of my mechanic.
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when i sliced open the oem clutch line i replaced with ss, i noticed that the core is a braided metal w/rubber jacket. so i wonder if a ss line is: ss braid > rubber core > ss braid? possibly their are engineering docs (i.e. terminal pressure deliveries) to back up the common knowledge of ss superiority?

EDIT TO ADD:
at the risk of contradicting myself, i now remember many years ago my home owners ins co requesting i upgrade to externally braided water hoses for the washer and commode fill connections. i was never sure if they felt the end cap connections were more secure, or that the external braid would lessen the flow of a ruptured rubber core?

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wpbfjr wrote:when i sliced open the oem clutch line i replaced with ss, i noticed that the core is a braided metal w/rubber jacket. so i wonder if a ss line is: ss braid > rubber core > ss braid? possibly their are engineering docs (i.e. terminal pressure deliveries) to back up the common knowledge of ss superiority?

EDIT TO ADD:
at the risk of contradicting myself, i now remember many years ago my home owners ins co requesting i upgrade to externally braided water hoses for the washer and commode fill connections. i was never sure if they felt the end cap connections were more secure, or that the external braid would lessen the flow of a ruptured rubber core?

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Pam worked at an appliances store and they recomended that the rubber hoses that come with washers be changed with the braided ones onced they are put in someones house.... If not change rubber hoses every five years or so....
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