2016 FJR at the Dealership.

[danh600]

So I went to pick up oil and filter for my 2013 FJR. I see this pretty blue 2016 FJR sitting there. It's an old new stock bike. No miles.
They had a sign on it priced at $13,999. Not sure that is a good deal? This dealer is pretty good about not adding BS fees so I think that is the actually price not counting Florida sales tax and registration.

I looked and the 2016 has 6 gears and the LED lights. So I am a little bit interested, but not jumping at the bit.

My 2013 has 70,000 miles and is in good shape. Now that I own the MT09 it will be awhile if ever to wear the 2013 FJR out. So really the 2016 would be more to get the enhancements. Also I love the blue. It's just a beautiful bike. If I made a deal on that one I would probably never have to buy another FJR.

However, I am not going crazy. I figure there will be a deal down the road. Maybe I will start looking when the 2013 hits 100k miles.

[ionbeam]

...I see this pretty blue 2016 FJR...No miles...$13,999.

...the 2016 has 6 gears and the LED lights...it will be awhile if ever to wear the 2013 FJR out...I love the blue. It's just a beautiful bike. If I made a deal on that one I would probably never have to buy another FJR...However, I am not going crazy. I figure there will be a deal down the road...

Given any luck, they will sell it before you need to make any decisions

[danh600]

...I see this pretty blue 2016 FJR...No miles...$13,999.

...the 2016 has 6 gears and the LED lights...it will be awhile if ever to wear the 2013 FJR out...I love the blue. It's just a beautiful bike. If I made a deal on that one I would probably never have to buy another FJR...However, I am not going crazy. I figure there will be a deal down the road...

Given any luck, they will sell it before you need to make any decisions

Doesn't help to have a wife that is an enabler when it comes to bikes.

I think she likes me buying new bikes, so she doesn't feel guilty when she wants one.

I texted her a picture of the bike and she said "get it". I texted her a picture of a gun and she said "You don't need another gun!"

Dollar wise the gun would be lots cheaper.

That bike has been at the dealership for a long time! Don't think they sell many FJRs.

[Red]

Danh,

Opportunity has to knock.

Temptation just needs to stand outside and whistle.


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[ionbeam]

Doesn't help to have a wife that is an enabler when it comes to bikes...I think she likes me buying new bikes...

I have that same problem. I stopped at a local motorcycle shop for something and spied a '15 with zero miles in '16 with a ridiculously low price. It was behind Jennifer's desk because she liked it (a sales person I've known for ~20 years). My wife says OOOHHHHHHH, I like it. I rode a zero mile '15 home on a bitterly cold January day.

It even happens with riding. I'll be mowing the lawn and she will come out and ask why I'm doing that on such a nice day. Two hours later we are in the mountains of Vermont or the coast in Maine.

[Intech]

Dan,
That price isn't bad for a brand new '16, however if it has been sitting there a while I am sure you could work something out. I paid $13,380 for my 15ES brand new in '15. That was a smoking deal.

[LKLD]

Do it, Dan!!

[Hack]

He who hesitates is lost...

[danh600]

Do it, Dan!!

Tina was pretty sure I would own a 2016 right after you got yours.

[danh600]

Can someone tell if that is an A or ES from the picture?

I didn't look that close, just snapped a picture on the way out.

Even expanding the picture I can't read the sign.

[danh600]

KKB motorcycles said a 2016 with typical miles retails for $10,735. This one is zero miles so there is that, but still $14k might be over priced.

Also, they have been stuck with this one for awhile so I can't see them wanting to give me anything for my 2013FJR. Their stock is very low but I doubt a used FJR is desirable to a dealership that mostly sells 4x4, PWCs and dirt bikes.

I bet if I trade the difference is going to be big after paying everything out the door.

With a little price negotiation and if someone can confirm it's an ES I might still be interest. If it's an A or if the price is firm I am out.

I know selling my 2013 on my own is an option, but I hate selling vehicles on my own. I would rather be beat by a stick and let the dealer low ball me a little than to have to go through the hassle of selling a motorcycle.

I sold a few boats awhile back and it was an absolute nightmare. People are idiots.

[danh600]

Ok looking at pictures on Yamaha.

That bike bike looks to be an ES.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong!

[Festus]

It looks like an ES to me as well. I can't offer much help on the price, other than to say there's a 2020 not far from here, new, and they are at $16,000 for it, and it's an ES. Use that as a point of reference if it helps.

[ionbeam]

IS ES. It has USD forks. Upside down. Sure symptom of an ES vs. A.

[N4HHE]

Friend drove 500 miles for a new 2018 A for $13k, this appears to be a 2016 ES for $14k. For a period in 2016 Yamaha incentives allowed dealers to price the 2015 as low as $10k. My local dealer has a 2019 or 2020 A on the floor asking $14.6k.

I bought the first 2016 "A" my dealer had. Waited a couple months. No regrets getting A vs ES. Today I can use that savings to put a Traxxion suspension under it which I expect to ride much better than what the adjustability of the ES would give me. Plus, even if I was just to rebuild/refresh my A it would cost a whole lot less than to do the same for the ES.

[ionbeam]

In '15 the dealer in Manchester NH had sold their full Yamaha allotment of FJRs. As a reward Yamaha told the dealer that they had a small number of '15 FJRs in a warehouse that haven't been built yet and offered the FJRs to the dealer at a very low price. As a result, I paid less for a new '15ES than I paid for my new '04 ABS. And without the silly PDP, a required $500 non-refundable deposit and an indeterminate delivery date like I had to do with the '04.

[D-Eagle]

Yeah, there were some screaming deals on the 2015s for quite a while if you were willing to drive and pick one up.

[danh600]

What year did they upgrade to the LED lights?

[FJRPittsburgh]

Maybe this will help Dan:

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/1 ... d-preview/

[Uncle Hud]

Yeah, there were some screaming deals on the 2015s for quite a while if you were willing to drive and pick one up.

The 2015s only have five gears and are therefore 16% slower than a six-gear FJR.