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Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:11 am
by Viper_Dad
Hey Festus, I found the new forks and dogs you were looking for. Pretty sure they're genuine Yamaha.

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Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:12 pm
by BkerChuck
Not too sure about that second dog from the right. Looks more like a BMW one.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pm
by gixxerjasen
BkerChuck wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:12 pm Not too sure about that second dog from the right. Looks more like a BMW one.
They are known to have issues with the final drive (hip dysplasia)

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:56 pm
by Festus
This has to be the most ADD group I've ever seen in my life :)

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:06 pm
by gixxerjasen
You no post, we fill. Bump to top. Post more.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:16 pm
by BikerGeek
Festus wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:56 pm This has to be the most ADD group I've ever seen in my life :)
SQUIRREL!!

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:05 pm
by HotRodZilla
Shit...If I could pay attention to anything for more than 3 seconds, I wouldn't have to come here to entertain myself.

However, that is the EXACT reason I could not take on the project you have. I'd get half-way through and lose interest.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:22 am
by Steel_Gin
First of all I am sorry for asking a question related to the rebuild. The ADD direction this is going is very entertaining, Wheaton standing guard over his bike, pie, UVA, Georgia Tech......priceless. :lol:

Just curious why don't you replace everything in the transmission while you have it open? Is there a big price jump in doing that compared to just replacing the specific gears and forks? Or would it be a waist of money and completely unnecessary? Not knowing the answer to those questions my thinking at the moment is the transmission was a problem, a lot of time was spent opening it up, a lot of time will be spent closing it up, so to make sure this isn't a problem in the future replace everything.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:49 am
by Hppants
All motorcycle parts are expensive. Transmission gears are hardened - they are hard (harder) than rocks. I think it would be worth considering if there was a major failure and huge chunks of metal flying everywhere causing self destruction. But a broken shift fork likely spewed metal flakes that were easily ground between moving gears. After inspection, if the hard parts aren't visibly damaged, they are good to go and fit for duty.

I ran a cage transmission shop way back in the day. When things were slow, we'd buy junkyard transmissions, tear them down, and stock them for replacement hard parts on future rebuilds. Or sell them to others that needed them. HUGE profit in this. I'd buy a junkyard GM 700R4 for about $25.00 and get $750.00 or more for it by the time it was parted out. Trans. parts can last forever.

My $0.02 worth.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:50 pm
by Viper_Dad
Maybe "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies here? Then again, the next time a transmission goes out I think Festus could change it in under 12 seconds just like a Formula 1 pit crew!

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:25 pm
by NTXFJR
Wow, it looks like they offer all the parts separately for '15's and back as needed, which means a 2nd gear gearset plus shift fork for around $240? Cool!

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I checked the '16 listing for the same and this is what they offer. It looks like a choice of (1) "main axle comp" at $429 ish, and (5) "drive axle assy" at $594 ish. Sheesh!

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Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:11 pm
by raYzerman
Naw, just replace the three parts that needs replacing..... the rest will be just fine forever.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:52 am
by Steel_Gin
Thanks for answering my questions, makes sense.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 am
by Festus
Things are looking up! When I found out my larger order at Partzilla was delayed, the guy told me if I wanted to partial ship, call back in a few days and tell them. I got to thinking about it and figured that I'd rather have the parts in my hand than sitting in their warehouse. I called yesterday afternoon and said "I think 3 parts are on backorder, can I get the rest shipped?". She said "It's only 1 part on backorder now, everything else is here". Still has a due date of Feb 23rd on that one, but that's the same date that the other 2 had, so who knows, maybe it'll get it sooner rather than later.

Not sure which gear it was, but it was one of the gears.

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:21 am
by raYzerman
Might as well wait, can't do much without that gear. Things are looking up!!

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:32 pm
by Festus
Jolene’s power and beauty has reeled another one in. Worldwide. Looks like the Japanese are hot for Jolene as well. I opened my email this morning and found the shipping notice from where I called on Wednesday and told them to partial ship my order. As I looked at the shipping document to see which gear was missing, to my surprise, ALL parts were shipped. Both gears and the shift fork. Due to me on Monday! So glad I didn’t go other routes because about the time I’d be putting used gears in and buttoning it all up, the new parts would have shown up.

Depending on my work load next week, I hope to be back to updating the progress soon!

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:29 am
by LKLD
Great news, Steve!

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:45 pm
by Festus
Cut out of work early today to spend a little quality time with her.

Time to take the swing arm off and the center stand, to get them all cleaned up and lubed.

Before...
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After....
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Not gonna lie, it did get waxed ;)
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While it's off and getting greased up,I flipped that legendary bolt backwards to allow the center stand to come off without taking the headers off in the future.
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Flipped that bottom bolt around. Solves a major issue.
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Got everything lubed up, torqued everything per the manual, and started putting it back together.

Moved on to the electrical and ran into an issue fixing one of the plugs with the terminals I bought. The one in the plug has these barbs sticking up that lock it into the plug. The ones I bought don't, so the new terminal just falls back out of the plug. Anyone know where to get these, or what they are called, since I already ordered the wrong things once?

One I need on the left, one I ordered on the right. It fits, it just doesn't lock into the plug.
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Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:19 pm
by raYzerman
Can't help you much, looked at my Sumitomo connectors and they have a different system again..... perhaps order a connector with terminals, male and female side, replace the whole thing??

Re: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene...

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:27 pm
by Festus
I emailed photos to Joe at cycle terminal and I’m waiting for his response. Otherwise, I might recycle the existing terminal.